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Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

There is so much wrong with just the title of this article:

  1. What marketplace? CivitAI is free. Unstable Diffusion Discord is free. Stable Diffusion is free. All of the models and LoRAs are free to download. The only cost is a video card (even a basic one) and some time to figure this shit out.
  2. "Everyone is for sale". No, that's current fucking situation, where human trafficking runs rampant throughout the sex and porn industry. AI porn is conflict-free. You don't need to force an underaged, kidnapped teenager to perform a sex act in front of a camera to create AI porn.
  3. "For Sale". Again, where's the sale? This shit is free.

A 404 Media investigation shows that recent developments

Get the fuck outta here! This two bit blog want to call itself "a 404 Media investigation"? Maybe don't tackle subjects you have no knowledge or expertise in.

The Product

Repeat: FOR FREE! No product!

In one user’s feed, I saw eight images of the cartoon character from the children's’ show Ben 10, Gwen Tennyson, in a revealing maid’s uniform. Then, nine images of her making the “ahegao” face in front of an erect penis. Then more than a dozen images of her in bed, in pajamas, with very large breasts. Earlier the same day, that user generated dozens of innocuous images of various female celebrities in the style of red carpet or fashion magazine photos. Scrolling down further, I can see the user fixate on specific celebrities and fictional characters, Disney princesses, anime characters, and actresses, each rotated through a series of images posing them in lingerie, schoolgirl uniforms, and hardcore pornography.

Have you seen Danbooru? Or F95 Zone? This shit is out there, everywhere. Rule 34 has existed for decades. So has the literal site called "Rule 34". You remember that whole Tifa porn video that showed up in an Italian court room? Somebody had to animate that. 3D porn artists takes its donations from Patreon. Are you going to go after Patreon, too?

These dumbasses are describing things like they've been living in a rock for the past 25 years, watching cable TV with no Internet access, just NOW discovered AI porn as their first vice, and decided to write an article about it to get rid of the undeserved guilt of what they found.

What a shitty, pathetic attempt at creating some sort of moral panic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The danbooru aspect of the "AI" moral panic is what annoys me.

So many of my friends - many of whom are amateur artists - hate computer generated images because the copyright of the artists were violated, and they weren't even asked. And I agree that does kinda suck - but - how did that happen?

Danbooru.

The art had already been "stolen" and was available online for free. Where was their morality then? For the last decade or whatever that danbooru has been up? Danbooru is who violated the copyright, not stable diffusion or whatever.

At least computer generated imagery is different, like, the stuff it was trained on was exactly their art, while this stuff, while might look like theirs, is unique. (And often with a unique number of fingers.)

And, if "copyright" is their real concern, them surely they understand that copyright only protects against someone making a profit of their work, right? Surely they'll have looked into it and they already know that "art" made by models that used copyrighted content for training are provided from being copyrighted themselves, right? And that you can only buy/sell content made from models that are in the copyright clear, surely they know all this?

No, of course not. They don't give a shit about copyright, they just got the ickies from new tech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just because something is free it does not mean that there is no marketplace or product. Sozial Media is generally free, but I would still call Facebook, Tiktok or Instagram a product.

Nowadays a lot of industries start out completely free, but move into paid subscription models later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I just wanted to say I love your comment. Your totally correct and I enjoyed the passion in your words. That's how we got to deal with shit article more often. Thx

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Honestly, if the combination of AI porn + good AR + haptic fleshlights gets us to a point where horny single men with limited real-world romantic prospects can have fulfilling sex lives without having to bug any actual living women to attain them, I think the world will be a better place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The human reproductive rate will plummet once we can have VR with sensory input.

Future Sex is a great anthology series about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm cool with this, we need a lot fewer humans anyway and particularly so in countries rich enough for people to be able to afford VR sex rigs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Impacting the plebeian workforce in a way that's felt even harder than today's inability to afford kids? Yeah, this is gonna be mocked and regulated out of existence for sure.

It'll look like moral reasoning, but the fewer workers exist, the more bargaining power all of them have against the rich. See the scarcity of laborers during the black plague triggering the end of feudalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, and also: The labour market is a market, meaning if there is fewer workers available, then "prices" (payment) go up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The psychological ramifications of that are immense. It would destroy people. It would be no different than any other drug.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I for one welcome our new sexbot overlords.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Yeah, but with the caveat that this will only make the world a better place if society chose to implicitly allow this, and actively chose not to disparage, mock, and exclude those people who want to go this path. Which, based on everything we've ever seen about society, is not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

True, but people already do 80% of that - I don't think the stigma attached to "AI-generated porn that talks to you and responds to your requests" is likely to be meaningfully greater than the stigma attached to regular porn, or to an OnlyFans where you're doing the same thing with an actual woman but clamoring for her attention with a bunch of other guys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh, based on the realistic fuck robots that are hitting the market I don't think you have to worry about society telling you that you can't have VR sex with a giant hentai squid with massive tits. Just maybe don't do it in your parents living room this time.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Because what the world needs now is an even more disengaged, disinterested, and misanthropic portion of the population.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah let’s just give young men sex robots and make them even more detached from community and relationships

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I do kind of wonder what the end-game is in terms of fertility rates in society if we can manufacture ever-more-perfect simulations of sex.

The Amish might still be around, but...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

These men used to gather on the streets and start breaking shit and kicking grannies back in the day to express their frustration. Them withdrawing to their moms basements smoking weed and jerking off to porn might not be ideal but perhaps not the worst thing either. That's why we don't see a significant uptick in crime despite the ever increasing amount of such men.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, to rule out the "misanthropic" part one doesn't really need to have a fulfilling sex life, just meet a few people (suppose, women) who'd make them like humanity again.

About disengaged and disinterested - it's more about engagement and interest being hard.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is not a troll: zoom in on the feet of the yellow dress image. It's hilariously bad.

Oh no, the realism, it's just too much! 🤡

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Click on comments hoping to find conversations on the ethics of AI porn. Instead find a 20+ comment chain scrutinizing the details of the feet and other features on the thumbnail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy becoming Reddit went faster than I had thought.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

People are people. Changing infrastructure isn't going to make it different, only the ability to perhaps filter it better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She has the correct amount of toes. Whats the problem?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean technically there are 10 but there's 6 on 1 foot and 4 on the other.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

WOW, try to have some realistic standards buddy.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, why did you zoom in on the feet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the hands were reasonably normal. AI always fucks up one or the other.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, she appears to have only three fingers and the index is kinda shaped like a thumb?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obligatory "Pebbleyeet is a Nazi"

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's wrong with having six toes on one foot, four toes on the other foot and your feet on backwards?

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