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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Let's see what actually gets passed on by retailers though...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Likely all of it as it is a no-cost change at the wholesale end, but of course it's an excuse to reshuffle the pricing brackets and adjust CVC to cut costs and increase profits.

It looks like the current top 1000/50 tier might get a bump up to 1000/100 though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It looks like the current top 1000/50 tier might get a bump up to 1000/100 though.

My understanding is that the gigabit tier is only available over FTTP... So why aren't the speeds symmetric? Practically every other country that has gigabit fibre has symmetric speeds. With more and more people storing data "in the cloud", upload speeds are more important than ever.

I live in the USA now and even the lowest speed tiers with ISPs offering fibre (300Mbps in my area) are symmetric.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Artificial limitations to separate residential connections from business connections.

Also, the CVC system is partly to blame.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

1000/50 is available on HFC. I know because I have it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Interesting... My mum couldn't get it at her place for some reason. She's with Optus and they said she'd have to wait for fiber to be installed to get the faster plans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It’s not in all HFC areas unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm on 1000/50 and while a bump to 100 upload would be nice, they really need to bump it up more. 250 minimum. Or something like 500/500 would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Agreed but unlikely for at least a few more years. 500/200 is where I'd be happy but that's $250 ish at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but can you imagine how much less efficient it would be without those profit driven businesses involved?

/s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You might be shocked to learn that NBNCo was set up and designed to be “profit driven” too then?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The original plan to run it as a public service was very quickly shot down.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can't wait to not be able to access this on my shitty fucking FTTN.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'll really annoy you by saying that VDSL2 (the tech you are using) supports up to around 250mbit throughput but no Aussie ISP has enabled that option. Your modem probably already supports it because its a pretty old standard.

Enjoy, have a nice day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

FTTN can in theory get higher speeds, but hardly anyone has a line short and high quality enough to actually achieve them so NBN Co doesn't even bother.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

FTTC can provide these sorts of speeds, FTTN, not so much. VDSL2 can deliver 250Mbit/s at around 200m.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I was on FTTN until last year and my connection was maxed out at 48mbps. I jumped on the FTTP upgrade as soon as I could.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

at no extra wholesale cost to retailers.

And at no extra cost to customers, right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

eh. for most tiers probably, but its an excuse to reshuffle the options and pricing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Just call them. Superloop gave me a $10 per month discount when my 6month deal ran out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fixed wireless still capped at 75/10 and lucky to get 25/5 in peak hours... So this is just extending the digital divide they claimed would never happen

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They’re actually upgrading the Fixed Wireless network to 5G already as we speak. All customers will be upgraded to 100/20 capability and the wholesale price will match other technologies. This means those on 75/10 will receive this automatically, and for free. From mid-2024, 90% of customers will be upgraded to 200-250/20 capability, with the same wholesale price as the 100/20 offering. This aligns with the speed tier upgrades in the OP. They will also start offering a Superfast tier at 400/20-40 to 80% of customers. Part of the upgrades include ensuring peak throughput, and doubling the range of each tower to enable new connections to a bunch of satellite customers.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/upgrades/more-fixed-wireless

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

That's good to hear. Now if I could only get NBN service (other than SkyMuster) at my place, that would be swell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yet another thing that is only available to people with FTTP / HFC. I live within a couple of kilometres of the Melbourne CBD and still am not eligible for that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

It'll come. My neighbourhood was finally free late last year and I took up the offer. Gig speeds baby