Use matrix, setup bridge (defederate from matrix network if you want), meet your friends where theyre at.
this post was submitted on 24 Feb 2024
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Using Threema is not an option. This is paid software and it is too difficult to purchase a license for this software when Google does not allow us to pay for purchases through their Android app store. No one from my entourage will bother paying for a license for this software using cryptocurrency. They will just install another messenger.
Know many people who bought Threema on Google Play
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This is what I hate most about the privacy community, too fanatical and purist to allow extremely useful optional features that would allow them to reach more people.
I use Signal whenever I can because I'm not comfortable with Meta harvesting metadata of my conversations with people. guess what would happen if Signal made it possible to talk to Whatsapp accounts?
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If it's an optional feature why are you complaining that the other businesses are refusing their option to federate with Facebook?
The issue is simple: Facebook will work to leech users away from other services, strengthening their position into a monopoly (if it isn't already in some places). It is not a good thing for Facebook to get access to more users and steal their data.
Honestly would love to use signal to chat with my whatsapp contacts. Signal could just throw in privacy notice when messaging with someone whatsapp or facebook messenger.
Currently I have signal installed and used to use it to message with my so but we have both moved to discord and use whatsapp to communicate with those that do not use discord. Still holding on to signal if and when some oddball from my contacts decides to use it instead.
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Threema seems to solve a problem signal has that is it does'nt need a phone number to open account . But i haven't used any of them so can't say . (If anyone wanna know i use telgram foss which is a debloated fork of the original client)
Doesn't signal now have username support? I thought i saw it released a week or so ago.
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or even a Matrix service would mean a deterioration of our data protection standards
Why? They use same algos, same scheme. Just add support for matrix message format in your app.
WhatsApp is closed source, and obviously it must be able to decrypt messages for the end user to read them. Anything could happen to the unencrypted data at this point. Therefore it's less secure allowing conversations to flow into that app.
Re-read my comment please. I'm talking about Matrix, not whatsapp. Not downvoting because you are correct, but it is out of context.
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Same
Me neither lol
Both Signal and Threema can now theoretically ask Meta to open access for basic messaging interoperability
Why is it a one-way thing? Would Meta ever be in a position to force Signal to interoperate?
Maybe eventually, it has to do with market share and if the service is a "core platform". Signal doesn't have enough market share to warrant it yet, even iMessage wasn't forced to since it's not that popular in EU. The law was mainly targeted at WhatsApp as that's THE messenger in the EU.