Nice. I don't think I need this but its good to have options
this post was submitted on 05 Jun 2025
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That's a pretty good idea for monetization.
Completely fine with that, I agree
As long as they leave the local backup option that sounds like a good idea to me.
Finally a good approach at raising money (other than donations)
Makes sense., something as huge and expensive as Signal can't run entirely on donations.
Sure it can, just look at Wikipedia. But it's probably a good idea to have some alternate forms of revenue generation.
Wikipedia has way more donors, since it's basically the only one of its kind. There is no Big Tech alternative to Wikipedia, so everyone just uses it by default. There are lots of other messengers though, so Signal isn't the default choice.
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Cloud backups, for security!
If anyone is actually going to get that right in a mainstream product, it will probably be Signal.
Year according to a wiki page on the unofficial Signal wiki the backup will not be directly linked to the user "It appears that backups will not be directly linkable to a user. Authentication for operations against a given backup will use zero-knowledge proofs.".
I don't mind paying a fair price, for a service, so they should go for it. I use both Signal and Telegram, and I would pay for Telegram too, if the price was more fair...
Don't use Telegram, let alone pay for it. So many red flags with Telegram.
Feel free to list them - with evidence and not just prejudice...?
- No end-to-end encryption by default, you have to explicitly start a secret chat. That means that instead of it all being encrypted noise, secret chats stand out.
- Servers are not open source (last time I checked). Why not? Seriously, why not?
- Admittedly, not much of an issue any more, but in the beginning they had horrible security (so did WhatsApp until Facebook threw some competent engineers at the problem)
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Good to see they have some reasonable revenue streams lined up.
At least this time they do it out in the open, not like with the MobileCoin integration.
All of my signal conversations have auto expiry
Do people really use their conversation logs for things? Are you often searching your conversational logs?
Outside of corporate compliance issues I can't imagine the workflow for most people
Yes, and yes.
"I said this was happening 3 weeks ago. Here's the literal text of me sending it to you and you saying 'Okay thanks' in reply."
Shuts down an argument real quick.
I never set auto expiry and often search messages. Sometimes it's because I want to find a specific fact or datum from two years ago; other times it's just for a reminder of a memory. On occasion, if the history wasn't there, people might remember something important differently.
History search is great when you have a lot of friends and poor memory. Perhaps not your use case ?
Me and my wife and wife sends information, pictures , whatever. I often search my messages for stuff
Yes, and yes. But most of it's because I've moved all communication over to it.
If I have anything that shouldn't stick around it doesn't stick around, If I need my grocery list from last month it's there though.
That said, I really don't have any interest in backups. It's an ephemeral stream at best that is there when I need it. And there are parts of it disappear when they're no longer needed.
The days where we presumed we could safely bitch about things to our friends over social media are clearly gone and privacy is of ultimate importance.
Pretend it's 1984, and you won't get yourself in trouble.
My grocery list is its own signal group chat with other members of the household
Same, We do more than groceries though, It's kind of fun anybody that needs anything just pops it in there
Though the same I like my conversations disappear when I need to reinstall Signal.
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As long as they dont shove it down our throats, and then expand and expand and expand the features that are in their paid tier, and make you feel lesser for choosing their local only unpaid mode, and dont make the unpaid mode inconvenient with dark patterns.
Its happened too much, I've asked my friends to hop through so many different platforms over the years and decades
It always starts with something thats reasonable, and every time thus far, it expands into something I hate.
If this feature rolls out but you can't pay for it. You can always use Molly (fork of signal). If you can support the project than do it. But if you can't than don't force your self
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I have no issue with this, I personally wouldn't use it but I get that they need to make money (which is why i have a recurrent donation every month).
If this helps them to do that, then so be it
Glad to see they are establishing useful streams of revenue
I, however, will continue using Molly in combination with Syncthing
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Excellent news honestly. Trying to get people to switch to something encrypted and the one thing I've thought of is that I want to know it can continue indefinitely. Everything else in life costs money- we just never think of it computer wise because we pay with our data and privacy.
This can join threema with a solid revenue stream. I back mine up locally but would pay for this anyhow.
Signal backups are an issue. They keep growing. I need to look into a solution sooner or later that isn't just buying a phone with more space. I'd like to find ways to reduce the size and keep managing the backups myself, but that's gonna take time. If they offer a secure, private, and affordable service, I'd prolly just redirect my donations to that.
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