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I am boycotting brave because of its sizeable amount of controversies and because it is American. I have decided to swap to Vivaldi but I have noticed a significant performance decrease on Speedometer 3.1 Benchmarks. Furthermore, according to EFF Cover my Tracks I now have a unique finger print and am easier to track.

My setup consists of using uBlock Origin (normal not lite) instead of Vivaldi's built in tracker & ad blocker.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Even Vivaldi has started saying certain plugins may not work in the future because they don't abide by Google's best practices.

My biggest problem with Firefox is Google meet does not work well with it in Linux. It can take me over a minute to coax the video to work and some builds the audio just never works. A lot of other stuff I use works slow or just poorly in Firefox. I need OWA and PWA's to work, keeping all of my work things together is just a really big hassle.

I primary Librerwolf, and slip over to Vivaldi or Brave when I have to have something that's google-ish. Each of the three are loaded down with the plugins that I use regularly and bookmarks are kept synced.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

As Brave??? https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/ haha

Just use Firefox with the right addons, if you still insist on chromium then take a look to https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

firefox is unuseable for me, it uses way too much ram compared to chromium browsers which have much better resource managmeent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

As far as I know, Chrome uses much more RAM than Firefox. Look for benchmark, Firefox keep using less RAM and being fast as Chrome, some builds even faster on the brenchmarks I read.

edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Using ublock is probably making you much more unique.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Anything you change on a browser like installing extensions makes your fingerprint change and be more unique. Especially on a browser like Vivaldi that is not doing much anti-fingerprinting as far as I know.

Librewolf is a good option if you want more privacy and don't want to use brave.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Vivaldi is a no-go for me due to these two reasons:

1- Chromium based 2- Does not respect the "open-source spirit"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's not Vivaldi, but it's not based in America and has a lot of privacy by default and there's even more you can add on about:config and some extensions. Waterfox is fast secure and more customizable as it's based on the Gecko engine. Which I think Vivaldi once used but I'm not 💯 on that.

https://github.com/BrowserWorks/Waterfox

https://waterfox.net/support/content-blocking/

I can't link the Security tab in their docs but above is the second link in the directory. You can add ublock origin and set useragent as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

waterfox is not even faster than firefox.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Vivaldi is the spiritual successor to the version of Opera that ran on the Presto engine, including some of the key people from back then. It has always run on Chromium with all of the baggage that comes with that. Manifest 3 and difficulty blicking autoplay videos without an extension for example.

It is possible that OP needs Chromium for some reason like sites restricting access to other browsers either intentionally, or due to incompetence. I've personally never been able to get any Firefox derivative to have anywhere close to as good of a user experience as out of the box Vivaldi despite my trying, though I can't speak to Brave's UX.

I might have to give Waterfox a try, though. Is there any word on how up to date they are with security updates, since derivative browsers tend to lack the resources to not lag behind?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Waterfox has given me zero issues, I use the useragent setting to present as chrome. There is no issue with blocking when this is done in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

I said as fast, ts is so slow

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

vivaldi would be the best browser for me (too and im boycotting too, im euro) but in there is so much shit i dont need. i have given up on firefox and its forks after 13 years...
both are chromium, so idk how they can be as fast as brave with a browser so full of "features" and less developers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

what browser are u using atm? vivaldi does feel wayyy to bloated

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

i have vivaldi, ungoogled chromium, falkon, ecosia browser and brave installed. i dont know yet which my favourite is. :)