Cmon bro, just one more reform, bro. It will fix the system. Bro, i promise. Bro, bro its going to serve us all. This time realy, bro.
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Funny, the revolution is the one not spinning...
The one not spinning endlessly in a trapped cycle, yes. That's the point, the reform side is "moving" in place, never actually moving nor is it capable of moving. The revolution van is capable of moving.
It's a play on words joke
Ah, I'm stupid, got it now!
I think they're making a joke that one of the definitions of "revolution" is making a complete circle. In the cartoon, "reform" is making a ton of revolutions.
There's a sticking point that no one's been able to explain to me:
If you're in the minority, revolution is against the democratic will of the people.
If you're in the majority, you have the votes to actually accomplish something with reform. It's not like we live in a monarchy, reform is possible under our system.
If reform isn't working to bring about your goals, either your goals aren't popular enough, or they are popular but the people lack the will and organization to vote for them.
If the people lack the will and organization to vote effectively, they certainly lack the will and organization to topple the government.
My area of expertise is managing complex systems and change implementation. I sincerely don't understand how revolution is supposed to work where reform doesn't. No one has been able to give me an answer that doesn't bill down to idealistic hope. How is this revolution supposed to be implemented, and why can't we build the foundation for revolution while simultaneously using the tools we have for reform? Wouldn't widespread support for reform be the best possible proof of consensus?
If you’re in the majority, you have the votes to actually accomplish something with reform.
Believing in santaclaus at least gets you presents...
This assumes that everyone is equally politically informed and engaged, and that everyone has given governance as much thought as one another.
The sad reality is a huge portion of people sleepwalk through life and they'd get by the same in a democracy vs. feudalism vs. socialism.
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I love this detail.
The AI haters will hate this, but I think AI is gonna provide the push that forces the fundamental changes we want. You can only replace so many people with AI and robots. The theoretical point of zero employees also means zero customers, because nobody has any money to buy anything, so making employees obsolete makes business and profits obsolete. In the real world the system will change long before that point, because it will have to. It might be from food riots and social breakdown, or political movements finally taking hold, I don't know, but AI will make the profit system eat itself. I'm just not looking forward to the extremely difficult transition period.
I want to believe you're right, but in a world where AI can fully replace human labor, that will likely also apply to the areas of mass surveillance and military suppression.
Imo, one of the scariest and most frustrating developments in robotics in the past 50 years is the ability to process billions of text and voice conversations, all at once, 24/7. Things really take a different tone when all of a sudden the US Government can find it feasible to listen to all of us, every time.
Yes, we're going to have these surveillance capabilities. Anti-AI memes and boycotts won't stop it. The rational choice is to develop authority structures the public can trust. Instead of treating the whole concept of authority as the enemy by default, we have to figure out a way to make it trustworthy. The question is how, and I don't have that answer but I know that's the question. I see it as kind of analogous to how providing basic income, healthcare, etc. for everybody would cut down on crimes of survival. When people aren't desperate they don't do desperate things. If making laws didn't attract money and prestige, greedy people wouldn't be part of it but public-spirited people would.
I want to believe you're right. But everything else so far has just been a gradually applied multiplier on human labor, not a full replacement. Instead of a sudden tipping point, we'd watch each other become destitute one by one, perpetually looking out for only ourselves.
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People are voting for Reform like they are different to the Conservatives…
They are different. They're more racist, xenophobic, and (surprisingly, it's possible) more incompetent.
Yes. I just don’t see the point of discussing the finer details cause they’re both scum, any half decent person would give them both a wide berth.
Edit; I think that they also know exactly what they’re doing.
June 14th
not usually on your own soil (openly), but yes you do.
Your right and that's why June 14th is the protest day - https://www.nokings.org/
i wish you luck and all the best
Thanks, I appreciate it.
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Thought this was about the UK reform party at first, still works
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