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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh suffered a resounding defeat on election night, losing his own seat, his party reduced to a single-digit seat count.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry, wasn't aware.

I usually post CBC, but they break metadata embedding on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here friend! Some of the Non Canadian owned new outlets and the Canadian owned when reading getting your information.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Where do Globe & Mail and Toronto Star sit?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Globe & Mail and Toronto Star are currently, Canadian owned, but can be acquired (by foreign interest).

P.s. none of the Canadian owned news outlets in the infographic can be acquired.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What makes those two different from the rest? Why can they be acquired?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Any for-profit organization (e.g. Globe & Mail and Toronto Star) can be acquired simply by buying shares. We've seen this with the Hudson Bay, for example.

The featured media outlets in the infographic are either government owned, or non-profit. You can't acquire the government, and a non-profit structure doesn't have shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Makes sense, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Owned and manipulated by our own oligarchs

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

first past the post will kill you as easily as it killed Estats Unis

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Estats Unis

Γ‰tats-Unis, my dude.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

this is what you argue about?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i think they wrote it in catalan, not french

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

yes, sorry for deviating

i agree wholeheartedly, fptp is a relic that should be disposed of, but we shouldn't forget that trump won the popular vote the second time (it's crazy we even have to distinguish between a popular vote and the actual results), so switching to a fully proportional system is just one step of many to take, i feel

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like Singh but the results speaks for itself. There is no chance of NPD growing under him despite him doing a great job in my opinion. I am glad that he thought about people before the party and himself

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I think he'll have a great legacy in hindsight. The important policy accomplishments of the NDP while he was leader will hopefully last for generations.

For comparison, what policy accomplishments have the official opposition had in the last ten years, and what accomplishments will they have under a Carney government? The CPC has more than 10Γ— the number of seats the NDP does now, but as a party they have had a lost decade in terms of policy impact whereas the NDP has scored big wins.

The NDP will hopefully have a comeback next election. I would guess they will.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I feel sad for the guy because he really did care and worked hard. He was a good dude.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He had his time and he did delivered some good things, but it's defintely time for new ideas and more charismatic leaders. He was the most unpopular leader in this election cycle.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

I agree generally agree with you but charisma is so subjective. A lot of people think that trump is charismatic but to me he isn't t all. Many think Carney is not charismatic but he is to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Jagmeet was plenty charismatic; and earnest, too. But while I worried about his focus, really he bounced off a glass ceiling; and then found slagging an ally in campaign ads was detrimental to both. (and let's talk about how uncharacteristic THAT was)

But he presented well as someone with decent motivations, and his causes were generally on the side of regular Canadians, as you'd expect from the oranges. He had his best party and just misstepped while puppet-mastering Justin.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

While I agree that change is necessary, I feel like NDP as a whole needs to change strategy. It's like every single promise they make is about throwing shade on another party, or saying they will fix something liberals did, but rarely any actual constructive or original ideas. They need to come up with their own identity instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

I mostly agree with agenda of the NDP and also with Singh but I also noticed that he started bashing the liberals more than usual in the last couple of month. I live in Manitoba and hear often official ads from the Conservative party in radio about things they blame on Trudeau. In my opinion this needs to stop, this is not professional.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

rarely any actual constructive or original ideas

My mom's getting some dental work, thanks to his original idea.

They need to come up with their own identity

They HAVE an identity: small-biz heroes, middle-class champions, lift-all-boats tide. This has been their identity for decades.

instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

You confusing the orange with the blue?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

That you think this means the NDP is not getting their message out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree that bashing other parties is useless but everybody does it. For weird reason the critisism only is given to NPD.

There is no such thing as original ideas in politics. Every ideas was proposed in other elections over the world.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I loved him, but he tossed Jessica Wetz under the bus and the next day, he was posting thirst traps on TikTok.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

On Jan 1st, the 3 major canada-wide parties were:

  • Liberal, headed by Justin Trudeau out of Papineau
  • Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre out of Carleton
  • NDP headed by Jagmeet Singh out of Burnaby South

On May 1st the 3 major parties will be:

  • Liberal, headed by Mark Carney out of Nepean
  • Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre(?) out of ?
  • NDP headed by ? out of ?
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

NDP aren't even a major party anymore with 7 seats, sadly

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're not an "official party", but they still got 6% of the vote. But, because of FPTP they only got 2% of the seats. Bloc Quebecois got 6.4% of the vote and 6.7% of the seats. There are still a lot of people out there who would want to vote NDP, but who voted Liberal to achieve "anybody but Conservative". The plan worked, but I think they'd like some electoral reform.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I completely agree to be clear.

But "major party" means something in election parlance, and unfortunately because of all the required strategic voting, it means NDP won't be at the next debate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

all the required strategic voting,

Much of BC was lost through three-way ties that the blues won by a nose. It seems that, for some ridings, strategy wasn't strong enough.

If two Oranges 'cross' to Red to give Mark a mandate, can they 'cross' back before the next election?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Yeah I hope the fact that both the NDP and the LPC got screwed in BC on so many ridings causes their hopeful coalition government to actually implement voting reform this time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, other.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That's why I carefully worded it "canada-wide parties". If it were just big parties by vote, you'd definitely be right. In fact, Bloc is the only big party that came through the last few months with their leader intact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, other.

Canada, Separatist, Separatist, Canada?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pierre Poilievre likely to stay as party leader since he's very popular with the base. Unless someone like Doug Ford decides to fight him for the position.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pierre is very not popular - when Trudeau quit he had a higher approval rating than Pierre. People this time were voting for the party, not for Pierre.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He's not popular overall, but he's very popular with the conversative base.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The election results (and polling on leader specifically) do not back that claim up.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Thanks for finally doing the right thing, Jagmeet! It only took your complete and utter defeat and losing official party status... but I guess it's better late than never. (Please elect a socialist leader now.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Not surprised he is stepping down. A very tough night.

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