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Mark Carney makes final pitch to voters: ‘Is Pierre Poilievre the person you want sitting across the table from Donald Trump?’ (www.thestar.com)

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“My question to Canadians is simple: Is Pierre Poilievre the person you want sitting across the table from Donald Trump?” Carney said, referring to the Conservative leader he disparaged as a career politician.

“I have managed budgets before. I have managed economies before. I have managed crises before,” added Carney, who served as head of Canada’s central bank during the 2008 financial crisis, as well as the governor of the Bank of England when the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union.

“This is a time for experience, not experiments,” he said.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago

Is Pierre Poilievre the person you want sitting across the table from Donald Trump?

Across the table? He'd be sitting beside him!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, who the hell wants a guy who's advocating for the removal of Canadian rights, funneling tax dollars to the rich, and is part of the same international conservative advocacy order as Trump and some other neo-Nazi fascist leaders? We see how much one bad actor can do to a nation, and while Canada has some safeguards to prevent such unilateral damage from coming into place, the Conservatives are full of yes-men who'll just sign off anything that PP wants, so he'll have defacto control over the parliament if he's elected.

A vote for the Cons is a vote for a fascist dictator.

If you want to vote for a right-wing leader, then vote Carney. The liberals are center right and always have been. A fare safer and more reasonable choice than someone who repeatedly walks all over the average Canadian and says that its "for your own good". A man who refuses to answer questions and goes back on his promises like they were just things he said while drunk on some friday bar crawl.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I hope the lack of election signs in my riding are a sign that the usual con voters are not voting con. Lots of lifers here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

The fucking Russian embassy staff in Ottawa is working overtime for Poilievre.

[+] [email protected] -19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"I'm not the other guy" will always be a weak argument

[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's PP's ONLY argument, though.

Mark Carney actually has experience in life being more than just a politician.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

i mean, for PP isn’t it even more ridiculous?: not the other other guy

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

That’s exactly PPs argument though.

🤡

[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's easy to miss but there are other words in the quote where he talks about his experience, get an adult to help you sound them out.

[+] [email protected] -19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

"I was a banker" might not be the strong point you think it is... Especially if we're talking about 2008, but it'd take an adult to remember that time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Uh… do you know what contribution he made to 2008? Or are you just free associating “banks” and “2008”?

Carney's actions as Governor of the Bank of Canada are said to have played a major role in helping Canada avoid the worst impacts of the 2008 financial crisis.

The epoch-making feature of Carney's tenure as governor remains the decision to cut the overnight rate by 50 basis points in March 2008, one month after his appointment. While the European Central Bank delivered a rate increase in July 2008, Carney anticipated the leveraged-loan crisis would trigger global contagion. When policy rates in Canada hit the effective lower bound, the central bank combated the crisis with the non-standard monetary tool "conditional commitment" in April 2009 to hold the policy rate for at least one year, in a boost to domestic credit conditions and market confidence. Output and employment began to recover from mid-2009, in part thanks to monetary stimulus. The Canadian economy outperformed those of its G7 peers during the crisis, and Canada was the first G7 nation to have both its Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and employment recover to pre-crisis levels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

While I do agree that he did help, he wasn't very instrumental in saving Canada from that meltdown. It was the policies that were already in place at the time that prevented Canadian banks from being overleveraged, which made fixing the issue in Canada far easier than it was in the states.

Carney did help prevent a major disaster, but he also started from a far better position when doing so.

Unfortunately Harper removed all the safeguards that prevented the 2008 meltdown, so we're as vulnerable to it now as the US was back then.

[+] [email protected] -45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree that the Liberals should absolutely be put in the penalty box, as any government should after being in office for 10 years.

And still the alternative is far worse. A rudderless, directionless group with no actual policy and no interest in accountability or transparency. Worse, with instincts that mimic the existential threat to Canada's sovereignty.

Carney is a guy that seems singularly equipped for this moment. We'd be fools not to take advantage of that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So who should everyone vote for?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Obviously the party that has shit the bed every time they have been in office but luckily not in the last few years

[+] [email protected] -57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My opinion is anyone but the Liberals, in order to create real world consequences for doing population driven QE. It should be a warning to all that it is a way to lose elections, since it dramatically hurts the poor and causes shortages without creating real prosperity.

We essentially inverted the phillips curve, which BoC publications say the labor shortage is a natural phenomenon after QE in order to restore the created wealth inequality from asset price inflation, so we shouldnt be trying to fill the temporal labor shortage before the Bank of Canada raises rates to cool the job market and asset prices.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

But voting for Conservatives is leaning into that damage. So, surely you mean to exclude them too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

The person you are replying to is an anti immigration advocate. It’s all they talk about and they’re only point in any issue.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Oh so you're like the people who were telling others to vote third party to punish the Democrats in order to get the Republicans in power... So, how's the weather in Moscow my man?