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‘We’ve woken up’: the older women leading the fight against climate change | Retirees are playing an increasingly visible role in environmental protests (www.ft.com)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Still, she took a more cautious approach to climate activism until she retired in 2021. “As a working GP, I didn’t really want to do anything that was arrestable . . . Maybe I retired a bit earlier as part of my wanting to do more for the climate.”

In November 2023, she was arrested and charged under the newly introduced offence of interference with key national infrastructure, which carries a maximum sentence of 12 months imprisonment, for taking part in a so-called slow march on Waterloo Bridge.

I appreciate that they're going into this prepared to get arrested. And now they're like "fuck it." It's weird people reading thw article seem to get the impression these specific women have sat on their butts their whole lives. Am I missing something? What should these specific women do differently?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Holy shit yes. What is wrong with these comments. The first thing in my mind was how amazing that these older women are going out and about trying to protect the environment for future generation when they could be enjoying their retirement, but apparently some people don't like it because of... What?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They're doing the right thing now. That is what matters. I'm really impressed. They could just chill and enjoy the rest of their lives. Instead, they are fighting for a better world for all of us, some even risking prison. We should all follow their example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

this is the part that slays me about skeptics: it's your kids and grandkids. wouldn't you do anything for them? don't you love them?

what the actual fuck, over?

it's literally the only biosphere we have and we're treating it like we have a package of biospheres from costco unopened under the sink.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So they can preside over the end of all things and claim they did something, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Do you think that retirees think theyll be around when shit hits the fan? Or are they trying to plant trees whos shade they wont enjoy?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

lol, they woke up when it got too hot because their house was on fire, but they’re still in bed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

What have you done to fight climate change lately? I think we should celebrate anyone taking action for a better future, regardless of their age. The majority of people, old and young are doing nothing.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Had they just started reducing emissions by 1%/year in 1993, none of this would be happening to begin with. The definition of too little too late.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This kind of bitterness and blame game is exactly what the ruling class wants us to engage in so we stay divided and don't fight back effectively. We must resist this narrative and unite with everyone who is willing to fight for a livable future.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What are any of the neolib scum who created this whole situation doing to fight for a liveable future? Voting for Gavin!? YOU are part of the problem. Do BETTER neolib sheep!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Die Welt dreht sich nicht um euch und euren desolaten Staat.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yup, but this is the world we got now. These ladies are risking more than I am, and that has me really considering what more I could do and what I'm willing to risk. We can mourn what we lost, but we can't go back in time.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is the kind of Labrador dog logic that has cooperatively led us here like good boys. If we put the fear of GOD in these people in 1990... or 2000... "what better place than here? what better time than now?"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I can't figure out what you're trying to accomplish with any of what you're saying. good luck with whatever you're planning, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Ok, but also, unless you've got time travel, talking about when we needed to start doesn't help anyone. Talking about what we need to do now, maybe.