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 Six months ago staunch allies like Canada and Australia would have loved to help, although they couldn’t replace China overnight. But the same tariffs that led to China’s new licenses for critical minerals are hitting the former allies Trump is treating like enemies.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nobody shoots himself in the foot like I do! Many people say so.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A man came up to him crying. Big guy crying. He had never seen someone shoot both their own feet. But he did it, bone spurs and all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

He said to him ''Sir'' they always call him 'sir' he's so respected. They said ''Sir, thank GOD, and JESUS, you are president'' and he wheeled himself out with only one shot foot. They know I'm better than that!

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A great example of how rugged individualism / nationalism are a myth and a fallacy. We need each other.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Autarky sounds fine to first order thinkers, who don't ask themselves things like "where is a nation supposed to get resources it doesn't have naturally"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Military conquest. That line of thinking was a big driver for Germany and Japan in WWII. Scary to see that path opening as a possible future.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

I can't really blame them.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can't wait for my in-laws to go on about how we NEED to invade them "for national security"

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Encourage them to volunteer

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Every time. They're well aware of my stance on war.

To go to war, every adult must vote yes or no. The yes vote is immediately signed up for military service, no exceptions given outside of life-threatening conditions. Everyone can do something even if it's just logistics.

No votes go about their business as usual.

And of course, there will be people who for one reason or another, legitimate or not, can't leave the general areas they live in. They can be national guard and show up to work the fields every day, ensuring wartime food supplies.

It may sound harsh, but unless you're willing to get down in the shit yourself, you have no business demanding someone else do it for you.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Make all the politicians in favor actually fight in the war, I'd like to see that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Ooh, yeah this is also a good one.

Any politician that speaks in favor of going to war is given front-line duty regardless of how they vote.

Again, if you're going to demand it, you're going to DO it. That means people who use their influence to sway others are also going to do it, even if they're cowards behind a voting booth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah, Rome tried that in the Republic, mostly it just got armies murdered. Rome won in the end anyways because what it was good at was making more armies.

What you do is make the drafting of their children as enlisted front line mandatory.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Real Japan in 1941 vibes.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

America is the cyclist that sticks a branch into the wheel. No fucking way you're being fucked after burning all bridges.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

No one saw this coming. No one.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

i'm all for it if it means the us will have lesser firepower to bomb us.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the japanese did their pearl harbor bombing as a response to oil embargos placed upon them by the united states and its allies; i wonder if the united states is going to do its own pearl harbor.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One of the ways that people now interpret WW2 was that armored tanks , ships and planes became critical in combat, and every actor in the conflict was going out and trying to secure oil supply lines. Places like Europe, Africa, the middle east and the pacific were all involved due to reliance on fossil fuel resources... Whoever could capture the resources or secure the flow of the supply lines had huge advantages. You could bring down the enemy by indirectly starving them of oil just as quickly as attacking them head on. The allied forces directly targeted the axis oil infrastructure like refineries as their highest priority targets.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/How-Oil-Defeated-The-Nazis.html

Surely that can't be happening again with new types of critical resources?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Trade wars are easy to win!" - some illiterate twatfuck

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

funny what you can achieve by declaring a trade war against the rest of the world

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

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I am not eating from this chum bucket

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Aaaand the land of the freeeeeee

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

America is about to become great again

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

US trade deal with Russia in 3…2…1….

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Turn up the Lee Greenwood, boys