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These States Have Investigated Miscarriages and Stillbirths as Crimes
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Surprising that Texas is not on the list.
I assume it's a technicality.
Texas just didn’t share info. If ya don’t keep records, it never happened! Yeehaw!
Now that's small government for ya!
(That's big enough to peer into people pregnancies 🤮)
The California cases were interesting, because at first I was almost inclined to agree with the prosecution, it seemed like blatant negligence. That being said, these people were clearly unwell, punishing them for the horrors brought forth by their poor decisions seems gratuitous. I think it would easily be a slippery slope without the sweeping ban that has been put in place on that.
Punishments also do not prevent or deter these things from happening in the first place, IMO. Investing in things like education and making healthcare and treatment accessible do.
I mean, even from a fiscally conservative standpoint, on paper it is substantially cheaper to rehabilitate people than it is to house them in a jail or prison. Tax payer funded slave labor sounds pretty good in comparison when you’re not paying taxes I guess.
That being said, these people were clearly unwell, punishing them for the horrors brought forth by their poor decisions seems gratuitous.
Prostitution and sex trafficking are also pretty common among substance using women. The lower rate of homelessness among women is mostly just because a brothel has a roof. If we were just housing and feeding them in livable conditions and having them attend outpatient treatment while offering birth control you wouldn't see this nearly as much. Birth control is pretty critical to giving a woman the immediate safety needed to exit any kind of abusive relationship whether it's a domestic partner or a pimp / madam. Food and housing don't hurt either, and if you can get them to break the addiction and not need drug money you've done pretty much everything possible to help them break the cycle. It's actually pretty rewarding to see how many people can figure it out with the right supports in place.
Oh this reminded me of this short (trigger warning for extremely dark / gross nurse humor).
Do you have some links to the California cases? Not doubting you, just curious about the details you came across.
Those fine states are doing God’s work of interfering with women’s health care /s
pretty sure that crimes require intent
... No? Some crimes do, but definitely not all. Probably not even most.
Nope, the vast majority of crimes require intent and criminal statutes that didn't make that a necessary element of the crime were frequently struck down as unconstitutional before our judicial system went to hell
That being said, what "intent" means exactly to a judge gets really complicated and can lead to unexpected results (e.g. if you intended to just stand around as a non violent lookout while your friends robbed a store with an unloaded handgun that probably could be intent enough for you to be convicted of murder when one of your friends gets shot and killed by the store attendant)