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Why are most people here are negative and rude?

Just to be clear here, I am not talking about instance, rather I am asking about the whole community.

There is no one I seen here who even had expressed any passion towards anything really.

I cannot understand how did that happen?

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago

Why are most people here are negative and rude?

Thank you for pointing this out. I found this place as an alternative to Reddit, but whoa, I think the hate for anyone who doesn't join the groupthink is actually worse here than on reddit.

I've actually had posters on here follow me to other communities just to downvote and talk crap about me, even if the community/subject had nothing to with their original beef about me. And they would brag about doing it!

Never had that happen on Reddit! Of course, won't stop me from posting, and I just think it's hilarious. Weird though!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Please also report people being rude, that's a temp ban here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

What's with all the downvotes? I swear there has to be vote manipulation going on with some of these threads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ehhh i wouldn't it way to start and angry mob and sometimes i dont trust mods descension. since even servers with no rules will make up reasons for a ban

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Find the best available option? Or start your own server with no rules and attract others who want no rules?

I think a good community would have restrictions to avoid unnecessary hate

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We're negative doomscrollers, true. But most people seem pretty polite, at least in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can be negative. But I love people and want the best for everyone. What I don't like are the toxic systems of control that some people are under, and some people follow. Aand sometimes I can be swept up in the injustice, and lose my patience with extreme followers.

I apologise in advance to this community if I make someone's mood worse, instead of better. I can often fail, and yet we should all strive to be a healthy member of the communities we inhabit!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago

The amount of dogshit takes from 2 week old to 3 month old accounts is absurd, Lemmy instances should institute a one month lurking period or something. Some fuckass actually posted Asmongold to a gaming group. Its a tidal wave.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You'll have to be more specific. I'm not seeing any unusual amount of negativity.

What's that thing about expressing any passion? What do you mean by that?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Go to any political post. Everyone is calling others names and it’s not productive at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But that's humans? It's always been like that, everywhere at all times. The only thing that's changed, maybe, is that Lemmy is growing and there's more discussion in general so of course the absolute number of things that cause name-calling has grown too, just like the absolute number of things that don't.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not true. Go to youtube and read the comments under any lofi video but that's just one example. When Lemmy just started it was a place for people to escape the fanatics and now it's becoming more toxic.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

It’s probably a downstream effect of the souring mood in the United States as the consequences of the current administration and our slide into fascism become increasingly apparent. Can’t speak for the rest of the world, but it’s hard to believe things are getting better out there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Selection bias mostly, you only remember the negative interactions. I'm new here but I've not run into any particularly negative or rude people so they don't seem super common, nowhere near like reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (19 children)

yeah i noticed they tend to go after certain posts and they need to be primed by either downvotes or a comment. the rude people will be quiet if you make safe posts but if they get a hint that there other people that don't like you then they dogpile. i noticed a good way to trigger it is to basically say or imply you do things without their approval or you dont care what they think

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That sounds.. rather conspiratorial.

Also, just yesterday I posted a longish rant about doing what you want and not caring about what people think in a comment and the only reply I got was 'This is the kind of pep talk I need!', so.. shrug Guess we travel in different circles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

well i don't say that its orchestrated or premeditated, its generally that group wants to feel part of a group and they look for signs that they're part of a group. the "tipping point" is a comment (or even a downvote on op replies) and then people that seek approval align themselves with the largest group.

I told the anti ai crowd that i was going to make an ai bot somewhere on the fediverse just to see how people would interact with it fedizens, simply to satify my curiosity, so that's the context. i just telling people "you're being an asshole to me and making demands from me while I'm just trying to hear you out, so i don't feel like changing for you"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My bad, perhaps the better word to use would've been paranoid. Had a similar ring to 'they only come out when no one else is looking', ya know?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Oh okay. I did have a conversation I tried to explain a litteral conspiracy and I kept getting called a conspiracy theorist

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

The Tumblr effect

Thing allows freedom of speech Thing now has "bad apples" Thing either get lobotomized or accomodates with that freedom.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Okay, there are three reasons why this is:

  1. Anonymity grants people the ability to be assholes.

  2. You've done something or said something that was going to get people riled up over.

  3. People from rejected instances, sites .etc come here to carry over their shitty nature.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My theory is that for-profit social media companies push conflict and controversy because it increases β€œengagement.” So, people are conditioned to be hostile and hiss like a cat at the first sign of disagreement (real or imagined). Lemmy, obviously, has different incentives.

It’s happening on Mastodon and BlueSky too. I try to respond with kindness and sincerity. (I don’t always succeed. I kind of suck at it, to be honest. But if we all even can halfass human decency, it’ll be better than most of the internet.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

+1 ! Need to work on my morning Lemmy scrolling... Grumpy as fuck and not being nice to people sucks :// !

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

i noticed that too. i chalk it up to people are always seeking approval and they want to tell express to everyone how the think and feel in hopes that people will express the same. its not everyone id say at most 30%. also you have to keep in mind that this is where the reddit rejects go (i can say that word because i got banned off of reddit lol).

another user got mad and attacked me for saying "my morality and logic is different" and said nothing about why my differences is bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Things are hard out there, and that makes people feel like finding hills to die on. The less stressful life is, the better the discourse, usually.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Totally agree. People here are some of the worst I have ever seen. Like actually worse than Reddit. Easily. Pretty sure most people here are just miserable depressed fucks. Kinda makes sense honestly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Are you sure you're not just getting back what you're putting in?

My experience has been so completely opposite, I simply have to assume we are using the platform in some fundamentally different way.

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