Solution: install windows for them, but complain and evangelize at every opportunity. You'll be so insufferable they'll never ask you again.
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I do that every time I have to use windows. But I think my boss does not like that...
Another solution - install Windows 2000, which was the first and the last good Windows distro.
I always install openSUSE without removing my buttplug. Or any extra USB cables.
Uhm... Where can I find that? For a friend, of course! (β ββ α΄β ββ βΏβ )
Well, I only know of one and you'll need 12 angry men to pull it out.
I dare you to use it for bios updates. Better don't clensh your butt or you'll brick your board
Oh yeah I have that too. Just sit on the PC case while you are installing. ( οΏ£β½οΏ£)
Too bad my usb stick can only store one distro at a time.
i installed linux mint on my sisters household PC last week.
my dad did his usual grumblings about "it should be windows" and i just said "i've been out of the windows ecosystem completely for the last 5 years and partially for another 3 years beyond that. i no longer provide support for windows, if you want them to have windows you need to support it"
he went quiet after that.
Why does your dad have an opinion on what your sister use?
he's still coming round to the fact he's not getting security updates soon due to lack of a TPM module.
He'll be running mint too by the end of the year
Right? OS arguments over Thanksgiving dinner sounds like kind of a good time.
Windows? Not heard of that distro before, sorry.
They must've meant Lindows, very common mistake.
Lindows is deprecated. Must've meant Wubuntu.
Me with 40$ 1tb external ssd with ventoy be like
Meanwhile me with a CD book that has 17 bootable DVDs and CDs plus a separate DVD+RW for more random, less permanent crap and a portable USB DVD drive (the drive is sourced from e-waste and fails to write both DVD+/-RW and CD-RW at 4x, only 2.4x and 10x respectively work).
I like spinny media.
I mean, I also have a Ventoy disk, but I haven't used it for a looooong time because it's no fun, but discs are.
I just need a bigger backpack. The WRT54GL is taking up quite some space too.
Much cooler than ventoy, no?
You have all that up your ass!? ( ; οΎΠοΎ)
I mean, they have a hole in the middle, so if I stack them they let stuff pass.
I- I didn't think of that...
Impressive, very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's 256GB Ventoy USB with 118 Linux distros and 36 ISO boot tools up his ass
My 77 year old mother-in-law runs Pop cause of me and loves it.
My parents love Bazzite.
Is Pop as good and generally user friendly for those less familiar with Linux? Never heard of Pop before!
Best I can do is 60 year old dad on Mint XFCE on a massive Phenom II x4 955. Salvaged from my first PC build.
Was the Ventoy binary blob issue resolved and it's cool again?
No. But the argument itself is so stupid to me.
Ventoy has never been a secure tool. People are making the argument that it should be, which is just nutty.
If you're one of those people that grab random fuckin' ISO's from all over the internet to test em out, then no. You really shouldn't use Ventoy. If you run official ISO from recognized sources, then realistically the risk is ever present, but minimal.
Like getting in a wreck on the way to the store to pick up milk. It's always a possibility, but not many people would stand around and make the argument that you should stay home forever because you might get into an accident, which is basically the argument against Ventoy. It's "we'll, it's a crazy useful tool, but you shouldn't use it because something might happen."
It's just such a bad argument. Fact of the matter is, is that if there were a non-hacky as shit way to do what Ventoy does, it would be available right now. But it's not... Because it's really not.
The only way to avoid the issues that Ventoy employs is to not use ISOs and use something like netboot.xyz, which presents its own set of issues. How do you know you're not being MITM from the iPXE environment? Like, sure. You can technically verify it, but how do you know for sure on the fly?
Like, if you sit down you can pick apart any software for being an insufferable gaping asshole of security vulnerabilities.
The problem with Ventoy isn't the ISOs.
The problem is they use binary versions of core tools like cryptsetup
in their source tree, vs compiling them at build time.
This leaves the door open to supply-chain attacks. I.E. a PR with a bad cryptsetup
binary, or an attack on crypt that makes its way downstream with no way to audit. This is how huge software distributions make their way to Wikipedia in a bad way: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor
The solution is the build those binaries at build time, which a fork is working on.
I read what sounded like an intelligent follow-up on this subject. But Iβm not smart enough to verify for myself, so I still refrain from using ventoy - even though Iβd love to start using it again.
It was basically βwacky code from all over the place, poor coding practices, canβt find anything bad, but methods used are sus afβ
Says one dude I read on the internet :/
That's it.
Sounds like a Chinese geek tried to make something useful, did a lot of dirty hacks to get it going.
And couldn't properly explain because his social skills and English weren't great.
The blobs weren't super suspicious, just some gpld tools, basically busybox kind of stuff.
The real problem is what he made was so fucking insanely useful and needed by everyone that the standards for software skyrocketed.
Like you make a cure for cancer and everyone starts screaming at you because one of the side effects is temporary impotence.
Got my parents a new computer for Christmas. I didn't feel like acting as their 24/7 tech support so I let it with the Windows 11 that it came with. Yesterday they couldn't get their webcam and microphone to work at all for our weekly family videocall. We ended up having the videocall on Signal. I believe they would face less troubles with Debian at this point.
Dude: "Damn... I really want to be able to see the inside of my computer. Why won't anyone help me install windows to the case?"
Installing Linux on your buttplug is a bold move, I say.
Ventoy is completely insane in terms of how it works fwiw: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/custom-nixos-installer-plug-install-play-how-to-achieve-this/61710/13
118 ISOs, and windows ain't one
Just say youre installing wimdows 13