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Jesus, this guy gets dumber and more dementia addled by the day.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago

It's illegal to not buy one? Does that mean we all have to buy one now? Lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago

Suck my balls. The US constitution says differently, little piss baby.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

And not a single journalist will ask him what law he claims has been broken.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Does he still take questions from journalists? I thought they were only letting sycophants in as 'press'

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

If the king don't like it...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

I'm sure Trump saying liberals have to buy Teslas will drive up sales.... how could that possibly fail?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

BUY PRODUCT. something something freedom camp.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

which critics said resembled a Nazi salute.

There's journalists right now getting murdered for standing up to tyranny and this spineless ass-kissing ball-gargling excuse of a tabloid writer is excusing Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Journalists employers are all friends. This Makes it nearly impossible to for journalists in large orgs to stand up to oligarchs. Although it does make for great pageantry for non-billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"we believe in the free market"

"NO NOT LIKE THAT"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fellas, is it illegal to have no money to buy something?

oh wait

read news article about a homeless man getting shot 50 times

👀

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I think what he wants is all our 401k by law having to invest in Telsa stock. I wouldn't put it past him to lauch an EO demanding that.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So, do I turn myself in, or just wait for someone to call the authorities?

I think I’ll wait.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

FEDS HERE HE IS! HE'S BOYCOTTING TESLA!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Noooooooooooooooooo!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

SEIZE EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T OWN A TESLA

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Giving cars more rights than women.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

From the guy who knows all about illegal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

If you don't buy a model x every day then you're getting arrested

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Is it a boycott if I was never going to buy that piece of crap in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

To quote that iconic bus driver: gargle my balls

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

"buy a tesla or GO THE FUCK TO PRISON!"

- Drumpf.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

what does that mean lol is everyone required by law to buy a tesla

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

It means Trump doesn't like it. And Trump can go fuck himself with a chainsaw. Despite his delusions, his word isn't law. It's just a flood of lies, threats and bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

And yet I shall continue

[–] [email protected] 172 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Declaring a boycott as illegal is itself illegal and a violation of the 1st Amendment 🌷🌈🖕

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I'm more blown away by the communism level planned economy lately.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The republican controlled congress will impeach any minute now...

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago

Any. minute. Now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Bad news, there's precedent for making boycotts illegal, though that's based on a deliberate misreading of hate speech laws

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Related, BDS is illegal in the US meaning that you are legally obligated to purchase things from Israel. It's unenforceable on an individual level, but it's used to come after people who promote or organize the boycott. If Trump and the Republicans wanted to make it illegal to boycott Tesla, they would have legal precedent because of that absolute lunacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

BDS is illegal in the US meaning that you are legally obligated to purchase things from Israel

It is illegal to openly, publicly boycott Israel if you are a government contractor. That's pissing in the face of the First Amendment, but that's about all. You are not obligated to buy anything, though you have to follow "level playing field" procurement guidelines, same as any other government contractor. But anyone who knows the game can craft a set of requirements and a procurement scoring system that will steer the result to any vendor you want to be awarded the contract. And if you're on a government contract and refuse to be a supplier to an Israeli firm, you might have some complications, but those can probably be worked around as well.

It's a bit like jury nullification. If you're ever put on a jury where a miscarriage of justice is taking place, don't use the word "nullification." Just repeat that the evidence does not support the charge. You are not obligated to explain your reasoning. Just show every sign of complying with the process, while refusing to stifle your conscience.

This kind of bureaucratic bullying has been around a long time and is probably going to get worse. The Red Scare was full of even worse bullshit. But realistically, this current Trump brainfart will only potentially affect government contractors trying to acquire vehicles. And adding a requirement for reliability, and including it in the ROI calculation that's part of the business case, will ensure that you're never forced to buy a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

It's not limited to government contractors. They push it into anything they think they can get away with it, and into things they know they can't just for show. For example, in Dickinson, Texas, hurricane victims were required to sign a pledge that they wouldn't boycott Israel in order to receive funds. Companies also face retaliatory legal action if they make moves in that direction, like how AirBNB had to reverse it's decision to shut down operations in the illegal settlements.

The idea of "it's fine because you can do it anyway, just don't say that you are" is still a problem. Boycotts should not have to operate on "don't ask, don't tell." Like, you're "allowed" to participate in a boycott in the same way gay people in the 50's were "allowed" to be gay.

Regardless, as I said, there is legal precedent to ban Tesla boycotts in the same way, such a ban would obviously be unenforceable on the general population, but for example if you're a teacher, they could make you sign a contract saying you won't boycott Tesla and you could be fired if you post otherwise on social media.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago

tHe mArKeT WiLl ReGuLaTe ItSeLf!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Why the hell would I want to buy anything from the fucking Nazis? The competition has surpassed the shit from Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 134 points 2 days ago (3 children)

However, the billionaire's increasing government influence has aligned with a global decline in Tesla sales, leading some to believe his political moves are damaging the company's brand.

For me, the Tesla brand is permanently damaged. I will never buy a Tesla. I don't care if they're good EVs, I don't care if they're the best EVs, I will never buy one.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The thing is they aren’t even good EVs.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's Musky gonna do? Sue everyone who doesn't buy a swastika like he's trying to do to advertisers who left Twitter?

Yeah I just dead-named that bitch

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I like the combination Xitter, pronounced "shitter"

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What is this article? "critics said resembled a Nazi salute"? Fuck off, Nazi apologists. He did a Nazi salute. It happened.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

No, he did TWO Nazi salutes. One right after another.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 days ago

The hit dog yelps. The boycotts are working.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I called it! I said they'd try and do a reverse class action lawsuit and sue people for not buying his cars.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump just has the strategy to give media 3 topics which make good headlines every day. Then he can do the "important" stuff unbothered. Soo, this ist the kind of stuff we hear about. But, what about the rest?

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