A fragile ego and sense of entitlement could also explain a lot of it. This comes from experience and, thankfully, at least some people can get better.
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People are too hard on drugs. Drugs are great. the ketamine might be helping for all we know. It's money and feeling unwanted as a child that has caused this man's brain damage.
You can see the insecure little boy in him so much. Him and Joe Rogan. They are so obviously doing everything in themselves to have some confidence but not even millions and billions of dollars can fill that hole of abandonment.
Right, no one does the amount of steroids Joe Rogan does without having a severe case of body dysmorphia or something similar
Unfortunately it's something as banal as height. He's 5'8, same size as ben shapiro.
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I think it's fair to say that ketamine may be affecting his faculties, but this is dipping it's toe into "the drugs make him do it!" sanewashing.
Drugs don't make people assholes. They were assholes before they took the drugs, and the drugs emphasise what an asshole they are.
As the saying goes “sober thoughts, drunk words”
Drunk words, ketamine actions?
People have been known to change personalities and become like that after serious brain injuries. Not uncommon for such people to become right wing.
I don't know much about ketamines effect on the brain..
Probably takes cocaine and he does drink alcohol too
I have a running theory that the reason celebs like telia tequila and Kanye suddenly veer so hard to crazy town is brain damaged caused by overdose/suicide and being clinically deaad + sent to weird brainwashing rehab facilities
Tila had a stroke and became a bathsit right winger, much like sorbo who had a stroke and becomes a nutty Christian
Nah just the pressure of fame, a thousand lying tongues in your ear and 2 thousands hands in your pockets.
Isn’t that a porn movie?
Nah your thinking of a thousand tongues and fists in your ass.
Good porn. Highly recommend it.
You guys eh, you guys do a lot of ketamine don't you? Jkjk
If I haven't K Holed at my job as a school bus driver then it ain't a Tuesday.
My name is otto I like to get blotto.
Thankfully, my school bus kids aren't narcs.
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I'm gonna tap the sign.
(The Drug User's Bible, by Dominic Milton Trott)
Do not let Elon Musk own ketamine. It is a valid depression treatment.
Well...it's found to effective at halting the immediate effects of severe depression. In other words, it's just enough to stop someone from going suicidal or worse. It has NOT been shown to be a good candidate for long-term use in treating general depression in anyone, in fact, there's a larger nunber of studies correlating Ketamine abuse with mental defect than showing it useful in a medical capacity.
There's a huge difference between those two things. Here's a study that only looked at previous records (no conflict of interest in new study targets) : https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8972190/
Well…it’s found to effective at halting the immediate effects of severe depression. In other words, it’s just enough to stop someone from going suicidal or worse. It has NOT been shown to be a good candidate for long-term use in treating general depression in anyone, in fact, there’s a larger nunber of studies correlating Ketamine abuse with mental defect than showing it useful in a medical capacity.
That, and with the resources available to someone like Elon, I am sure he has some personal doctor giving him regular recreational access if he wants to.
That being said, the article is a bit sensationalist. It shouldn't be ruled out as a contributing factor, but Elon has basically always had that confused arsehole streak to his character.
Correct. However, it is effective in the short term, which makes its short term use valid. Occasional recreational use is also valid. I feel psychedelics are a better option in most cases. Elon Musk has chosen to use ketamine chronically--carelessness in, carelessness out. He shouldn't be the face of ketamine. I'm rightfully concerned about the demonization of ketamine due to these headlines, when the only thing that should be demonized is Musk.
Musk is the same person who said homelessness is a propaganda word for useless drug addicts. Anti-drug sentiment is a dangerous radical right ideology. People must remember this when discussing this subject. I've seen comments on many posts relating to politicians and drug use with an inherently negative stance on drugs, particularly with Musk, which is my reason for tapping the sign. The articles themselves often have an anti-drug bias, and I feel that's showing itself here a little.
Keep discourse in good faith.
Lobotomies also are effective in the short and long term for stopping suicide.
I think it's perfectly fine to push back on drugs and procedures when we are currently only in the present to excuse it away as effective enough to get the outcomes we want.
It does not mean they are safe or should be promoted.
If it's legitimately harming brain chemistry and has a similar effect to long term brain damage why is it OK other than because it accomplished a goal of getting other people to mumble that they can't kill themselves and its seen as a victory.
Cautionary discourse and open about the possible negatives are how we move forward.
Demanding only positive and happy conversation around drug use is also radical and dangerous.
Don't pretend it's bad faith when it's just against your own interests and beliefs.
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Valid treatments are abused all the time...
Ket is abused all the time.
Musk isn't taking it therapeuticly, he's taking it recreationally to dissociate from a reality where he's a giant asshole everyone hates and makes fun.
Two completely different uses
Growing up the son of a wealthy emerald-mine owning dysfunctional family in apartheid South Africa explains a lot of his behavior too.
And grandson of the head of the “technocracy” party in Canada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_N._Haldeman
I mean, that dude died when he was 3. It is possible his views were passed onto his mother, but.
Excuses at this point
There's an oldish ~~English~~ Irish rap song about what Ketamine is like ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA5PWRPeMOk
And man, does it explain Musk
Versatile are Irish.
(Or were, I think they've gone their separate ways now.)
Good looking out