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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

“I feel terrible for the American people because it’s not the American people, and it’s not even elected officials, it’s one person,”

Like hell. Congress is the one thing with the power to end this madness. The Republicans in control of both houses are absolutely responsible as they are doing literally nothing to rein in Trump's madness.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

Agreed. It’s 80% of the elected officials at this point. It’s unfortunate that foreign puppets are in power.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 hours ago

Something also not touched on in the article is the HUGE number of ukrainians we have in our country, particularly in the praries. We're ranked in the top 3 for ukrianians/Ukraine heritage, below Ukraine and Russia.

I'd argue most Canadians are pretty pro-Ukraine, and the US wiffle-waffling on that as well stings deep.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah we’re not playing this back and forth game, just hit the Americans with tariffs and make them stick. Tbh I’m liking this “buy Canadian” movement that Americans have finally awakened

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

As an American… me too. I buy everything Canadian that I can. As long as he is in office, I’m buying foreign made. Idgaf about the tariff hike to do so. I’m voting with my wallet from now on since my vote doesn’t mean shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

What if, hear me out, what if we trick trump into thinking DC is canada? Maybe we would be DC statehood then? 👀

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

DC and Puerto Rico will become states the same day that we are 100% sure how they will vote in future elections, and the party we are certain they will vote for has the executive and congressional majority.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Oh DC is a permanent blue, yet Dems are too spineless to add it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

At a certain point being "Spineless" feels like a cover for complicit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Dems are still operating under the Missouri Compromise

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I do find it pretty appalling that Canada is being offered statehood before PR

[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

American here.

Keep doing what you're doing Canada. Don't play this retard's game. The ONLY thing conservatives understand is money. Hit them where it hurts. It's the only thing that'll make them sour on this traitor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

American trade is nearly worth half of Canada's total GDP. something like 75~80% of total Canadian exports go to the US. if they actually retaliate in force they could be dooming their country to an economic crisis if Trump is spiteful enough. so far the Canadian tariffs have only touched about $30B worth of goods, or 7% of the total trade.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Bottom line is Canada can't rely on an unreliable country that literally threatens them.

It's time for the world to move away from working with the U.S. We've shown we aren't trustworthy. Canada needs to increase trade to other countries to compensate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

sounds nice in theory but i don't think people realize just how integrated their economy is to the US

entire industries are completely dependent on US trade. they traded large swathes of their economic autonomy away for easy access to the US market. prosperity was deemed more important than sovereignty

it's a decision that was decades in the making and it will likely take decades to reverse.

and if we're being honest it shouldn't have exactly taken Trump to make Canada realize the US acts in its own interests. Look at NAFTA signed by Bill Clinton. We pressured Canada into accepting a deal that forced them to maintain a certain level of oil export to the US even if there were domestic shortages.

It's not the type of agreement equal parties or allies come to. It's a relationship of domination. Always has been

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

While true, the Canadian government has already announced grants and loans to help Canadian companies restructure their supply chains away from the US. It's a start. While the legal framework exists, Canadian companies haven't yet had a reason to take advantage of new free trade agreements with the EU and the Asia Pacific. Now they do.

Also, in terms of numbers: about 25% of Canadian GDP is based on US trade; a little lower than the number you quoted, still too high, I'd say. Hopefully, the Canadian economies' smaller size will prove agile enough for the transition. I've also seen it suggested that the hit to the Canadian economy from Trump's attacks could be offset by removing internal trade barriers so that Canada can trade more efficiently with itself. This has been a huge shot in the arm for that project.

20% of US exports go to the EU, 18% go to Canada, 17% to Mexico, and less than 10% to China. Similarly, about 70% of US imports come from those same markets. This will be devastating for everyone, the US included. It won't be the 'short period of transition' the bloated diet coke goblin imagines. World trade patterns and supply chains will literally be upended.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Canada’s total exports are about 35% of total GDP. So that puts US exports at somewhere around 24% of GDP. Pretty high but then if we exclude oil and gas and potash exports it’s a much, much smaller number. So small in fact that we would probably replace those exports within 12 months.

I wonder if anyone else other than the US wants some oil, natural gas, or potash? And yes I know we currently lack pipeline capacity but at this point I’d be willing to let the government finance it all to move oil and gas to the east coast.

I really think Americans over played their hand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

You're not alone! It looks like investors also think they overplayed their hand, judging by the reaction of the markets. Terrible combination of Trumps silky smooth brain and US exceptionalism.

Also, not the first time I've seen the 40% GDP figure make an appearance. Must be doing its rounds on US propaganda networks.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Hell yeah - it'll be a looooong time, if ever, before we can trust the U.S. again as a neighbour and ally. Right now, they're nothing less than an enemy.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

As an American, I can't blame you for having this sentiment. Canada and Canadians don't deserve the stupid shit the Trump administration and its followers are dishing out. Like many here, I'm disgusted that we are treating one of our closest abd staunchest allies in such a crappy way. I hope you guys continue to play hardball on this stuff.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've got both family and friends in the U.S., and have always enjoyed my time there, like most Canadians I think - but we're pissed off now, and we're gonna protect ourselves and the country we love any way we can. Here's hoping this madness ends soon, although right now it's hard to see how :-(. Cheers, and thanks for the support!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's going to require my fellow Americans grow a brain and a conscience. Or learn that y'all're'nt just silly maple folks who like hockey but a whole entire country that can and will fight back

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Hockey is a sport where fighting is allowed. To imagine Canadians can't whoop ass is silly.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It's a temporary reprieve for a reason. Canadians would have to have American levels of comprehension of what's happening to back off now

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago

narcissists will not respect you if you don't fight them tooth and nail on every single possible thing.

if you give them an inch, you are done. do not let the americans have shit. punish every gesture.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Trump thinks he can simply order things up like he's getting a Big Mac, and the courts and other countries are demonstrating to him that the world and the US do not work that way.

Also, I hate how normal this feels. Everyone's still struggling to pay for food, utilities, and health care, but now the other 49% are making excuses because now it's their shitty guy in charge of it, and the people who were making excuses while it happened for the last four years are pretending they give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Eh, the last 4 years were rough, but we were coming out of a pandemic and had one of the best, if not the best recovery in the world. To pin how we responded to covid on Biden is disingenuous. I voted for him because I didn't want Trump, but outside of his really bad fumble for the recent election (and his support of Isreal genociding Palestinians), he did a rather decent job.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 12 hours ago

had one of the best, if not the best recovery in the world

And that's really sad. The "best recovery in the world" and we're still inches away from a destitute working class, and ever-increasing wealth for the oligarchs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

the pandemic response was fucked. trump failed catastrophically. biden failed catastrophically. covid is now endemic. it is not past tense.

more than that, the whole field of epidemiology and study of infectious diseases is now polarized; like 30% of the country is actively opposed to the very concept of public health measures now.

we did not recover. trump could have saved us with a fast and severe response, calling for immediate quarantines, saying to compartmentalize your social groups-maybe on the level of your office or your church to limit contagion, talking up the vaccine research he'd authorized, and wearing a mask in public whenever he could so his followers would take lead. he did the opposite of all those things. biden could have saved us by buckling down, keeping drug companies for taking profit from tax funded research, and making some hard decisions on sacrificing to do a big international aid push, quarantining, etc.

neither of them did those things. both of them had a responsibility to. fuck those guys.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

Well hopefully with the impending economic downturn the US will get their shit together... Right?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 15 hours ago (12 children)

We’re gonna get a nice trump recession. All the fuckbrains will have to contend with their stupidity. I just hope I don’t get what they deserve.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Lol 'Trump recession'.

Better get ready for Trump destitution, with the way things are going

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