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Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

They need to do this and make it absolutely clear that it is 100% Trump's fault. They cannot be allowed to make the claim that canada did it unprovoked or for the lulz.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Do it Canada. The dumber half of our country needs to learn the hard way. And, unfortunately, the smarter half has to go along for the ride.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 hours ago

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Glad that Canadians are standing up for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump threatened military action in return, should Canada go forward with it. I mean, it sounds crazy to write it, but is it really too crazy for Trump?

[–] [email protected] 100 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Do it unilaterally without discussing with US.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Or even better: Discuss it with Ukraine, US gets no say in the deal. And if drumpf disagrees, the reply will be "you don't want electricity."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 hours ago

I actually had a good laugh at this... Then I had to login to my second account to up vote this twice.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

On the slim bright side maybe just maybe this might make the US think of renewable energy, it’s why China invests so much into it to prevent relying on countries for oil.

Ehh who am I kidding, that’s not going to happen at all.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

More likely they'll reopen coal plants

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 hours ago

The children, they yearn for the mines

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fracking was our answer to energy independence.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

(Copy-pasting from another thread)

I like Cory Doctorow’s plan.

The reason Canada got tariff-free access to sell to the US in the first place? Canada agreed to enforce penalties for tampering with digital locks, following the premise of the Digital Milennium Copyright Act.

If the US is going back on the deal, then Canada should too. Make it legal to jailbreak all US tech.

Doctorow advocating for this plan:

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

Thanks for sharing this info mate...It's a eye opener....Just fuck the technocrats.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 hours ago (14 children)

Why is the fairness meter of the article "unfair left leaning", when it just reports on something someone said?

I don't see any opinion piece there, but pretty much just direct quoting

How can this be even left or right leaning? Oo

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

In the US, reporting on simple facts makes you “radical left” while obvious propaganda makes you “right leaning”.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We Americans have a serious problem labeling anything we disagree with as "those other guys". I might even say it's our main problem. We wouldn't be where we're at today without the divisiveness and team mentality.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

Sadly it's not just Americans...

Seeing the same we-they pattern here in Austrian right wing communities/parties

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Can't wait to see this happening. It's a language A bully like Trump might understand. might.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

Unless HIS power goes out, I’m not sure he’ll care. But I hope the people affected know where to lodge their complaints…

[–] [email protected] 221 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

As an American, I agree 100%. Canada needs to kick our ass. We deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 hours ago (14 children)

I agree with the sentiment but those states are all pretty blue. Trump might just let it happen to widen the divide and somehow claim that it's punishment for not bending the knee.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

Im gonna tell you right now, as a Canadian, we do not care what colour your states are.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

But also - we invite secession!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Secession is a nice idea, but merging into Canada is a nonstarter.

Canada is 40 million people, New York is 20 million. That kind of influx would be insane to manage. And that’s just one state…

I can only think of east/west Germany as the closes parallel and they are still merging the halves.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Given that Canadians don't typically vote in American elections, I don't see how that has anything to do with us or should affect our decision making.

The USA is tariffing us, not just the red states.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, the us is bad at thinking everyone is inside their crazy system. It does not matter to us if you state "don't blame me I voted for Kodos", at the end of the day you are all citizens of a belligerent nation. Your government is representing you all on the world stage, if you don't like it do something about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

those states are all pretty blue.

Minnesota is. Michigan tends to be (especially now that our districts are drawn independently), but we voted for Trump as a state. And New York is mostly red except for NYC.

I almost want to see our power bills skyrocket in Michigan. But at the same time I know full well the dipshits who voted red (including my own family) will blame everyone else before they blame the people who might end abortion. So it won’t matter. They won’t learn. Instead we’ll all suffer because of their idiocy and they’ll continue to think that we’re winning.

(In fact they’ll be thrilled because it will mean increased oil and natural gas production to close the gap in demand.)

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (19 children)

Good for them, maybe our economy will collapse too, and an angry mob will storm the white house and kick Trump out. He can emergency evacuate to Russia, and we can find an administration that isn't insane.

Heyy.. a guy can dream.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I wish we weren't pinning our hopes on angry mobs. But you play the hand you are delt.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I'd prefer we do more than kick Trump out. Like...guillotine them all.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

sort of the best case scenario

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Don't get too excited. Ford loves to talk tough but he's a fucking pussy.

We'll see what actually happens. No one here is holding their breath.

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