Good. Some Americans need a little hurt in their lives to understand that this isn't what they thought it was.
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Sucks to suck, but I hope my industry (auto manufacturing) suffers hard enough to wake up my coworkers 🤷
Other countries, if you're out there - follow suit. This flappy gum flexing shit we're doing has got to stop. It's gonna hurt, I'm sure. But until we're neck deep into the "find out" phase, nothing is going to happen.
I'm sure he's planning on getting it back from Mother Russia.
This move is very emotional and plays into Russia's hands - it drives the wedge between US and Europe even deeper, increasing separation. Is this really a reason to celebrate, either by US or Europe?
Oh no. Now that the abusive step-dad is beating his kids in public, the social services are taking the kids away, driving a wedge between the family. Is this really a reason to celebrate?
The US has always used Europe after WW2 as an extension for its own interests. The alliance was never as mutual as shown to the outside. It is urgent time that the EU and other European countries emancipate themselves from the US and band together to hold against Russia and other global players. This should have been the top priority, when Trump first came to office, but lazyness and naivity prevailed, so that much of the last 8 years went to waste.
The Trump administration does not understand softness. The US has threatened to invade territories under control of an EU country and they have passed sanctions against international courts, that are located in the EU and have been one of the core projects of a rules based international order. An order that the US always defied, mocked and attacked.
Either the EU and other European countries get a grip and emancipate themselves, or they will continue to get beaten up by the abusive power drunk step-dad that is the USA.
They're going to use this as an excuse to buy Russian oil just watch
In that case, the rest of the sane 1st World should sanction the shit out of the USA until Orange Krasnov and his crew of Russian assets are out of office.
Plenty of Europe, if not all, it's still buying Russian gas, even Spain which has Algerian gas still buys from Russia (a few billions of €), enough for Russia to say Spain is one of the most reliable partners they have.
It's all a sham, a charade, a fucking joke.
Feels almost unbelievable to hear that there still are people and companies standing up for their values and principles even in the face of losing profits or comfort. I thought that true western values had finally died and we were collapsing but this give a tiny sliver of hope at least.
norway doesn't really count. they have too much independent wealth to need to play by rules set through bullying and abuse. and a natural solidarity because they don't need to concern themselves with economical risks or worries.
in other words Norway has "fuck you money"
Kinda nice to see it used for once. Is that how it feels to like a billionaire?
and an uncomfortably short distance from Russia
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Master Negotiator. He'll get on the phone with these guys and tell them tariffs are coming.
True! Then the company that no longer sells fuel to USA will make less profit when selling fuel to USA! What a punishment!
Murican here. More of this please. We've swan-dived into some record setting 'fuck around', and desperately need a 'find out' that hurts enough to teach a lasting lesson.
You all need to swan dive the fuck out of it if you want this to stop.
The world cannot save you from yourselves. We will isolate you, abandon you, treat you as the untrustworthy former friend that you are. But none of that will matter if you don't fix your shit.
Right. But for the sake of everyone else, our government needs to be treated like the hostile nation it is.
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I really agree with this , as a fellow American.
Good. As an American, I encourage all countries to do things like this.
Refuelling in st Petersburg, Russia 🪆...
Good.
Fuck us
Apparently we need the leopards to eat a lot more MAGA faces, fine by me. Better they should have full tummies before they hurt any more trans people.
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Wonderful, it's time people got the memo, America are not the good guys.
I'm saying this as an American. I would love to see a world where America's Government was viewed with suspicion when acting in international affairs instead of Europe looking up to them like the adult in the room. Europe, YOU, are the adult in the room.
Europe looking up to them like the adult in the room.
We never did that though.
The dynamic was more like the US is the big rich kid with all the toys who sometimes bullies the other kids so it's better to have him on side.
Now you've elected a couple of literal spoiled rich bullies it makes it all a lot more obvious.
As an European, I do not want this division. The world is safer having USA, Canada, and Europe as allies.
Then don't do what we did, vote for progressives not Conservatives. Conservatives are a plague on society.
Coming from an American who moved to Germany, Merz will pave the road to Germany's Trump.
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America has always been tolerated for political reasons. But noone in Europe has ever really looked up to the USA. You were useful to keep good relations with, (good in a fight). But you've always been regarded as loud, uncultured, and disturbingly patriotic. And honestly, if you look back at Europe's history, we're not exactly afraid of a fight.
Stay the fuck out of Greenland and Canada, and come talk to us when you elect a grownup.
I tried, but honestly until we get rid of Gerrymandering, Republicans will have a foothold no matter how blatantly unpopular and universally reviled they are
The problem is they aren't universally reviled. Trump still got 77M votes (almost half the popular vote). And that was in the full knowledge of how badly he fucked up the first time. But even if people didn't pay attention to the pandemic, and the Muslim ban, and the separation of children from their families, and the protests, and the insurrection, the man still behaves like a toddler with frontotemporal dementia (including sundowning on stage). Yeah gerrymandering is a definite problem, but the commercialisation of politics and the relentless rightwing propaganda is a much bigger one.
Yeah, but the thing is, Trump didn't gain any voters, Kamala merely failed to re-obtain votes Biden had one.
And since Voter Intimidation was in full swing and Elon is, according to Trump "Good with computers, so you don't REALLY need to vote", there's too much shenanigans
My point is that 77M people want trump to be president and that is 77M too many when you consider the shit show that was his first term. Even if a few million of those votes are fabricated, it's still a massive problem.
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"From this day forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world." - Donald Trump, Inauguration Day Jan 20 2025.
So much respect.
Trump is a dictator, dictators think "respect" and "fear" are interchangeable.
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Fuck the US
Europeans know how to deal with collaborators
This will continue (the whole of America suffering) until someone wrangles in Trump...
... or he gets us into a major war we can't win.
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American here: good. More of this, please.
Kudos to Haltbakk Bunkers, I would not assist the "Russian Navy" visiting any of my ports.
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