What's the criteria?
Speed and reliability? Snakeboi.
Ability to move around unimpeded and/or taking a dump while being on Lemmy? $350 router with spikes.
And if prison rules, I'm going router with spikes...
this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2023
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Real talk though, I own that router and it's awesome. Can't say the wifi signal is much different than any other router I've owned, but it's got loads of awesome features I use for hosting stuff. DDNS support plus Let's Encrypt plus OpenVPN support in one box. Very handy.
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Why is this my top post? What joke am I missing? So confused.
The joke is that you have to spend $350+ on a router if you want a lot of bandwidth to spare for all your devices -- and more importantly -- a strong, reliable connection (especially if you live in an area with a lot of competing WiFi traffic, like an apartment building). Or you could just buy a $3 ethernet cable and get the same thing.
Happened to me. The cheap $100 routers kept dropping the signal, so I blew $400 on a fancy gaming router with custom firmware support. Problem solved. That said, if it weren't for the fact that smartphones exist (and the fact that I have a girlfriend with a laptop), I wouldn't bother with WiFi at all. I miss the 2000s, when all you needed was a 10Mbps switch, and WiFi was something you only got if you wanted to brag to your friends that you can browse the internet in your backyard..
$400 on a fancy gaming router with custom firmware support
I think I need to bold this up. Custom firmware support, especially OpenWRYT, means that your router will live for years to come.
Thing is: You can get better hardware for $250. OpenWRT support for mikrotik devices is spotty, though, not many people care as the things already run Linux (with proprietary network stack and management interface looking, well, like an enterprise-grade router, not server). That is, the issue is not that they're locked down (they're not) but lack of interest in using custom firmware, these aren't dumbed-down html interface only types of machines but office endpoints from a company producing ISP-grade hardware.
Generally speaking having wifi is usually a good idea because smartphones and guests exist but connecting PCs via wifi is nuts. First of all, I'd have to buy a wifi card and sacrifice pcie lanes...
And lastly, a fun reminder: Once upon a time there was a German black hat, and he used wifi. The police already had evidence that he lived in a particular neighbourhood, but nothing specific enough to get a search warrant. So they went war-driving in the area, correlating spikes in (encrypted) wifi traffic with messages in a chat room where nefarious things were planned, until they figured out which house the traffic was coming from, then parked a bit nearby until they had statistical significance tighter than a fingerprint. They never had to get that search warrant once they presented the court with the data it issued an arrest warrant straight away and no degree of disk encryption could save the guy from a verdict.
If it is cat6 ethernet wire wins
Have that router. Snakey boy wins.
You must have forgotten to sharpen the spikes 😹
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If your TV vendor decides to only put 100Mb cards in their TV then unfortunately spikey boy wins and you lose unless you're willing to downrez your AV catalog.
They do that shit on purpose. Use a shield or an htpc. Only input your TV should be getting is HDMI.
Is that why my shit keeps buffering any time I try to stream a movie larger than 50-60 GB, despite the fact that I have a gigabit connection and a 2.5Gb router? TIL. BRB, running some speed tests on my TV...
It's been 9 hours, how did it go?
Venn diagram of people who understand this specific technicality and people who don't want to deal with the shitty TV software is almost a circle though.
I'd rather get a Android box at the very least.., or just HTPC.
I set up an hdmi-Ethernet converter and run Ethernet between my TV and main desktop. It solves problems.
That's one solution.... unless someone wants to use the computer while you're watching something, it's fine. For any shared access TV/computer set up, this falls apart quickly.
I want my SO to be able to watch something on the TV while I'm playing a game though (and vice versa). Personally all of my stuff is independent, we each have a gaming computer, and the TV ruins separately of all of it. We have a Samsung smart TV and it has a Chromecast attached, so we have options there.... but not everyone is set up like me.
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I don't understand how it's acceptable for $2,000 TVs to have only 100 mbps ports, wouldn't it only cost a few cents per unit to upgrade?
Cables are fine until that stupid clip breaks off and every nudge unplugs the fucking cable ever so slightly that it doesn't work but you can't see it.
I have a collection of 3d prints on thingiverse that reattach that part. Highly recommend.
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The cheapest way to get cables is to know somebody who crimps it themselves, but for the majority of people probably buy from shitty places like walmart for a 1,000% upcharge.
Pretty sure the biggest cost of crimping your own cables is finding a place to store the remaining spool.
Or ensuring the spool is still useful 15 years later while everything has migrated to SFP/QSFP
Or ensuring the spool is still useful 15 years later while everything has migrated to SFP/QSFP
Nah, the remaining spool will be useful for the rest of its/your lifetime, it always comes in handy as a generic 4-pair twisted pair signal cable for any non-ethernet purpose. I've used my old spool twice this year; first for an m-bus cable to my power meter and then for a limit switch for my garage door.
That's me lol. I'm still sitting on my spool of Cat6 I bought a few years ago. At pre-COVID prices it was approximately (CAD) $1 per termination, and $1 per 6 feet of cable.
Today at Infinite Cables and other Canadian stores I can buy premade lengths at almost those costs, shockingly. Prices really came down.
Don't forget the hundreds or thousands of dollars it'll take to wire up your whole house with Ethernet plus the wireless router you'll need anyway for any device that doesn't have an ethernet plug
Depends on the challenge. Snakey boiy loses if the challenge is to move around the house and go into the backyard.
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Depends, am i routing data or cosplaying the lich king?
Fucking millennials. Learn to multitask.
Wrong generation
I'm pretty sure the love for Warcraft III evenly splits X and Y.
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Obligatory warning AVOID CCA CABLES! They can be a hazard!
Go for copper. More on this issue:
https://www.truecable.com/blogs/cable-academy/cca-vs-solid-copper#page_comments=1
I won't defend CCA wire but aluminium is an excellent conductor... by weight, not by volume. It's not that you can't make good aluminium wire it's that CCA wire are generally shoddy. Brittleness is an issue but with time copper work-hardens so you can't mess with it infinitely, either. It's especially useful for overhead lines as it's so light.
Somewhat not entirely unrelatedly: Steel bike frames are generally better than aluminium. They're it practical terms about as erm sturdy at equal weight, but steel bends quite a bit before it breaks so a good steel frame will be lighter than an aluminium frame and can get by without shock absorbers when the geometry is good, that's why you see curved forks (not if it's a downhill bike, of course, and "generally" means "if you're not looking for a carbon-fibre race bike", there's reasons to want stiffness in bikes just not for most people).
Next up: Oxygen-free copper and audiophiles. Practically no increase in performance (and definitely none compared to simply using a tiny bit more of regular copper), meanwhile, so cheap that when you're at a decent store (say, Thomann) and sort by price the cheapest stuff will have OFC.
I don't like to use aluminum for anything, mainly that it fatigues more easily and will thin/break of strained. My home insurance provider also hates aluminum, I couldn't get insurance if I have any aluminum wire for my electrical work. Anytime I see it, I just want to pull it out.
CCA feels like the worst of both worlds.
Copper is king for me.
There's a plethora of problems that can be listed for both aluminum and copper and CCA. Aluminum/CCA is cheaper, but the trade-offs are not worth the savings IMO.
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An image titled "who would win?"
On the left side is an image of an Asus RT-AC5300 Tri-Band Wireless Gigabit Router, a square, black router with a red line around the side near the upper edge, and 8 antennas coming up from the bottom. The text beneath the image reads "A $350 router with scary spikes"
On the right side is a blue Cat6 ethernet cable. The text beneath this image reads "A $3 snakey boi"
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Latency is the name of the game if you're gaming. Copper will always give you the fastest ping times compared to the fastest wifi you can buy.
The wifi latency on generic 5ghz routers is like 5ms if not less
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We ran snakey boys throughout the house using command hooks on the ceiling when my wife and I had to go WFH 3 years ago.
The temporary fix is still going strong. At this point, the place would look weird without hastily strung up CAT5 all over the place.
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