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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Although I think that I've researched a lot, something might missed my research. So I would like the below:

  1. Be able to provide and admin various domains for email services.
  2. Each domain will have each own users and be independent and each user should have their own mailbox. Don't want 1 user with different email addresses.
  3. Modern UI. So I guess no Migadu.
  4. Apps for iOS and Android or be able to use Foss apps like K9.
  5. Provide white label option for each domain to have their own logos etc.

As far as I looked, Zoho is close to what I'm looking for but now sure. Also looked infomaniak which might offer those too.

So, please provide your feedback 😀

Edit: Don't want Google and I'm talking about a paid plan. I'm aware that what I ask cannot be provided for free.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I believe protonmail has their business plan which probably fits the bill. It seems to check all of your boxes, admin console, custom domains, prexisting and FOSS apps on respective app stores, integration with 3rd party clients like Thunderbird, individual user accounts. For white label, I don't know what that means, it doesn't say that word for word on their site, could be some other name or they don't have it?

https://proton.me/business/plans

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Proton is a good fit, and skiff.com may fit the bill as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Tuta may be ticking all your 5 entries. You can simply test it, sign up, pay the 12 Euros per year, go for custom domain and check the options.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Really like tuta, have to admit that i've not looked closely at the paid options but they provide their services for free to our open source project and it functionality even on that tier is pretty great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think Tuta ticks any box I'm afraid. Their UI is very basic, they charge per user and they don't offer white labelling...

I really wanted them to offer some more but no...same goes with Proton although they have nicer UI.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I can’t suggest anyone because I use gsuite legacy but in 2022 when they were going to stupidly start charging for something they said would be free forever people put together a spreadsheet comparing providers. Might be out of date for some but might be helpful.

Here is the Reddit thread for it and Here’s a direct link to the spreadsheet

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This spreadsheet is seriously outdated. Protonmail has gotten ridden of visionary and revamped their plans for a while now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Wow thanks for the recommendation. Will look at it asap.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I switched from hosting my own mail for close to 10 years to using Fastmail. The webmail client is much better than Rainloop and Roundcube. I like it better than Gmail TBH. I’m very happy with my decision, but I’m only hosting for me.

I also considered Proton, but it doesn’t satisfy a couple of your requirements. It is a good value though, and the privacy features are tops.

The best value I’ve seen by far is Microsoft 365. The webmail for Outlook is quite good and you can host your own client if you want and connect with IMAP. It’s especially a good value if you use the family plan. Bonus is you also get MS Office and a TB of storage. Downside: Microsoft. But 2024 MS isn’t the same as 2005 M$.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As someone else already said, I’d suggest FastMail. I switched my personal domain email to them recently and they’ve been great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Another vote for Fastmail here, almost a decade now. Super reliable, and great customer service, any problems or questions I have are always answered within a couple of hours via their tech support. I also use them to host my own domains.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Check out Fastmail. Pretty much ticks all the boxes, I've been using them for a decade or more. Ultra reliable, good value and constantly innovative and adding features especially in the collab space.

My only gripe with them is their mobile app is online only in that it doesn't work in a cached offline fashion. That can be addressed through alternative clients though and their web app is pretty slick.

Bonus points for them, you can host your DNS with them too and you can manage it all fully integrated.

Edit: typos

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

May I ask what's unmodern about Migadu? Their fast and readable UI is the reason I use them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

If I am not mistaken they use roundcube for user's client and do not offer white label (?).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I made the move from gsuite to Zoho mail, and wish I hadn’t.

I notice incoming mail delays several times a year. Support hasn’t been super helpful on that or other issues — I ask to provide or review logs and I get a run around.

Their support of exchange active sync is half baked in my experience, too.

As a pro, it’s reasonably priced and the native interface is ok. You can trial them for free, but don’t expect to catch all the cons in that period.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I use Runbox, and have for many years. Overall I've been happy with them. I think they have the features you are looking for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I've been using OVH for a while, the price is decent (~1.5€/inbox + VAT) and they have a quite comprehensive mamagement interface, with the ability to create different admins account I believe. Of course you can configure your accounts with any client and the documentation is a bit confusing but complete

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can MXRoute do what you want? Sorry, I used them for a while but I don’t know if they meet your requirements.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Looked into them as well. They don't have white labeling options and only US servers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I recommend Opalstack.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

How about a selfhosted mailserver with IMAP / SMTP?