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[–] [email protected] 2 points 33 minutes ago

I thought we stopped doing that that in 2003

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I see three main types of people that voted for trump, the easily duped, racists and the rich that don't care how they get their money. If someone tells me they voted for this guy I loose all respect for them. I'm sure that there's some one issue voters out there but I would lump them into the first category. I have even less respect for someone that doesn't like trump but did not vote.

I'm at a loss of what to even do. I would like to see the dnc grow a pair of balls and take on these monsters. I would like to see the dnc organize a national boycott on any company even closely tied to musk and trump. The protests are fine to show solidarity but the people in charge will not see it. Hitting the companies in the wallet that are helping musk and trump destroy our country would be a good cause IMHO.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I knew one of those types. The first Trump campaign he straight up said he wanted to see the US destroyed and that's why he was voting. He used to be a run-of-the-mill liberal dude but got caught up in stupid 4 Chan and shit and became a huge mysogynist and racist. It was sick watching him turn and become emboldened over the years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I've lived all around this country and I think the biggest bucket that you exclude is "people who grew up their whole lives in Republican communities that also don't care about politics nearly as much as chronic Internet users". these people go to the booths and go ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ before voting for whoever's campaign banner they saw around town more or whoever they heard a relative mention. these people are everywhere. they aren't even bad people or misinformed dummies, per say, just willingly uninformed. for a large swath of Americans, being Republican is just the default unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

If someone lacks the intellectual curiosity to question their own beliefs, they're fucking dumb (and probably lazy). That's the first box, assuming "easily duped" means what we all know it means.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

This is the political awareness equivalent of telling people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

People are overworked, lack childcare, have poor healthcare, come from underfunded schools, never get exposed to diversity, etc... Just because it's possible to escape those conditions and doesn't mean it's natural or easy.

Saying people are dumb and lazy is a thought terminating cliché, you have to view that as an extension of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

pretty elitist thing to think imo. some people just don't want or have the time to concern themselves with certain things. I'm honestly envious of those people. I wish I could care less.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

History doesnt judge people

Nobody claims that WW2 was because of voters, that the Poland invasion was because of the soldiers

The people leading the propaganda are blamed

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago

And yet, so many people's German grandfathers refused to talk about what they did during the war. Despite the lack of judgment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

History does judge people. The nazi soldiers have caught a ton of grief, even in my lifetime. The israli soldiers currently serving are frequently compared to nazi soldiers both in meme and article form.

Yes the leaders get most (and should) of the blame. But people do remember the other people making it possible. (google the Yaroslav Hunka scandal for a example).

Ill probably be considered a fascist myself in my descendants eyes, having not run for office or started/participated in a violent revolution. (I am holding out hope I might still be able to participate at least).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Nobody claims that WW2 was because of voters

Maybe if folks had been shamed into not supporting the Nazis and their hollow, superficial, hateful "solutions" we wouldn't even have an example with such obvious and clear parallels to draw upon.

Nobody claims that WW2 was because of voters, that the Poland invasion was because of the soldiers

Nobody should be (or seems to have been) fucking absolved for handing their nation to fascists, either.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/german-civilians-forced-see-real-11908228

https://www.pritzkermilitary.org/explore/museum/permanent-current-upcoming-exhibits/allied-race-victory-air-land-and-sea-ca/germans-dig-graves

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1084913

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn556026

edited to correct unclear wording

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 hours ago

There's a tiny part of me that's willing to allow that the people voting for him in 2016 just wanted to make their protests heard. Even though he was very, very clear who he is and what he stands for, people were struggling and made themselves heard in the shittiest possible way.

But the people who voted him in again, knowing exactly how it's going to shake out could all drop dead at once and I wouldn't shed a tear. Fuck every one of those cunts.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago

People seem to be forgetting the mod reminder, and I'm tired of deleting posts and banning people and I do not want to lock the thread, so here is a reminder of the reminder.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Everyday I read the news and get more depressed.

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