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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago

A guy is driving around the back woods of Montana and he sees a sign in front of a broken down shanty-style house: 'Talking Dog For Sale.'

He rings the bell and the owner appears and tells him the dog is in the backyard.

The guy goes into the backyard and sees a nice looking Labrador Retriever sitting there.

"You talk?" he asks.

"Yep" the Lab replies.

After the guy recovers from the shock of hearing a dog talk, he says, "So, what's your story?"

The Lab looks up and says, "Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was pretty young. I wanted to help the government, so I told the CIA. In no time at all they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one figured a dog would be eavesdropping, I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years running... but the jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn't getting any younger so I decided to settle down. I signed up for a job at the airport to do some undercover security, wandering near suspicious characters and listening in. I uncovered some incredible dealings and was awarded a batch of medals. I got married, had a mess of puppies, and now I'm just retired."

The guy is amazed. He goes back in and asks the owner what he wants for the dog.

"Ten dollars" the guy says.

"Ten dollars? This dog is amazing! Why on Earth are you selling him so cheap?"

"Because he's a liar. He's never been out of the yard."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

There is an alternative reality out there where LLMs were never marketed as AI and were marketed as random generator.

In that world, tech savvy people would embrace this tech instead of having to constantly educate people that it is in fact not intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I've already had more than one conversation where people quote AI as if it were a source, like quoting google as a source. When I showed them how it can sometimes lie and explain it's not a primary source for anything I just get that blank stare like I have two heads.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Me too. More than once on a language learning subreddit for my first language: "I asked ChatGPT whether this was correct grammar in German, it said no, but I read this counterexample", then everyone correctly responded "why the fuck are you asking ChatGPT about this".

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 hours ago (41 children)

Because you're using it wrong. It's good for generative text and chains of thought, not symbolic calculations including math or linguistics

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

Because you're using it wrong.

No, I think you mean to say it’s because you’re using it for the wrong use case.

Well this tool has been marketed as if it would handle such use cases.

I don’t think I’ve actually seen any AI marketing that was honest about what it can do.

I personally think image recognition is the best use case as it pretty much does what it promises.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think I have seen this exact post word for word fifty times in the last year.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

Has the number of "r"s changed over that time?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This is a bad example.. If I ask a friend "is strawberry spelled with one or two r's"they would think I'm asking about the last part of the word.

The question seems to be specifically made to trip up LLMs. I've never heard anyone ask how many of a certain letter is in a word. I've heard people ask how you spell a word and if it's with one or two of a specific letter though.

If you think of LLMs as something with actual intelligence you're going to be very unimpressed.. It's just a model to predict the next word.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If you think of LLMs as something with actual intelligence you're going to be very unimpressed.. It's just a model to predict the next word.

This is exactly the problem, though. They don’t have “intelligence” or any actual reasoning, yet they are constantly being used in situations that require reasoning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Maybe if you focus on pro- or anti-AI sources, but if you talk to actual professionals or hobbyists solving actual problems, you'll see very different applications. If you go into it looking for problems, you'll find them, likewise if you go into it for use cases, you'll find them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

If you think of LLMs as something with actual intelligence you're going to be very unimpressed

Artificial sugar is still sugar.

Artificial intelligence implies there is intelligence in some shape or form.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Artificial sugar is still sugar.

Because it contains sucrose, fructose or glucose? Because it metabolises the same and matches the glycemic index of sugar?

Because those are all wrong. What's your criteria?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Something that pretends or looks like intelligence, but actually isn't at all is a perfectly valid interpretation of the word artificial - fake intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

This is literally just a tokenization artifact. If I asked you how many r’s are in /0x5273/0x7183 you’d be confused too.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's predictive text on speed. The LLMs currently in vogue hardly qualify as A.I. tbh..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Still, it’s kinda insane how two years ago we didn’t imagine we would be instructing programs like “be helpful but avoid sensitive topics”.

That was definitely a big step in AI.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago

It's like someone who has no formal education but has a high level of confidence and eavesdrops on a lot of random conversations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

I asked mistral/brave AI and got this response:

How Many Rs in Strawberry

The word "strawberry" contains three "r"s. This simple question has highlighted a limitation in large language models (LLMs), such as GPT-4 and Claude, which often incorrectly count the number of "r"s as two. The error stems from the way these models process text through a process called tokenization, where text is broken down into smaller units called tokens. These tokens do not always correspond directly to individual letters, leading to errors in counting specific letters within words.

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