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Like... is there any law against it?

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 months ago (6 children)

In Germany:

When using vehicles, unnecessary noise and avoidable exhaust pollution are prohibited. In particular, it is prohibited to run vehicle engines unnecessarily and to close vehicle doors excessively loudly. Unnecessary driving to and fro within built-up areas is prohibited if it causes a nuisance to others.

§30 (1), StVO

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You'd need to refuel at some point and I expect that refuelling whilst in motion would probably hit some legal issues.

And then, assuming that you overcame that, in the UK at least, you'd need at MOT test at some point, which would have to be at an approved test centre, so 3 years at the absolute max - although I expect tyres etc would need attention before that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If jets can refuel mid-flight, I'd think a similar solution should be even easier for a much-slower car.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I'm hearing that there's a need for gas / petrol / whatever stations in more roundabouts. Maybe even a rest stop or extended stay hotel.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Where do you live, OP?

In Denmark it goes in the same category as not driving when the light is green or keeping to the left on the highway.

While you seldomly see someone get fined for it, taking more than two turns in the roundabout is considered an obstruction of traffic, and therefore illegal.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In Norway, there's a specific "law" against causing dangerous situations by being inattentive, unpredictable, inconsiderate or reckless. Needless to say, it goes unenforced a lot, but if you wanted to nail someone for driving like a dipshit, it'd be a decent catch-all.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In Sweden, we have a classic joke that Norwegian roundabouts have the sign "Maximum 3 rounds".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You'll probably not be surprised to hear we have the exact same joke about Swedes.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (3 children)

In my country you are only allowed three rounds max. But I have not heard of any case where someone was fined for such a "crime".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How do you even know that? Is there a sign or something?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

They teach it to you in driving school. No need for signs since it counts for every roundabout.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It'd be called 'obstructing traffic'. Police sometimes grab boy-racers along the sea-front near my home for it. There's no specific law saying you can't wait at a T-junction indefinitely, and i usually get stuck behind the ones that do. :-(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

"Boy-racer" is a term I wish I had known years ago to refer to some acquaintances. Seems much less offensive than what I was using.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Illegal in my country, as you are disturbing traffic. Potentially even preventing emergency services to operate. Might be fine if you are alone though

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

i mean, if everyone was staying on the roundabout.... but if you have one guy goin round and round, there should be plenty of interleave for everyone else. how would it be disruptive?

im an ignorant american, just curious

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

During rush hour, it will definitely have an impact on the flow of traffic with most roundabouts, which are usually not very big (in France anyway).

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Because if you let one guy do it, you have to let everyone do it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Obviously it’s all going to be dependent on local laws, and depending on their vagueness the attitude of the cop that eventually has to deal with you. Here we have a catch-all ticket for “wasting finite resources” for cops to use when they don’t know what else to ticket you for. Originally it was to stop cruising, but I’m pretty sure no one has gone cruising since gas was $0.25 a gallon. Also I’m wondering if I could fight such a ticket if I can prove I charge my car with 100% solar.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It depends how many tickets your mum bought. Even then, the owner is bound to close up at some point to go home.
Maybe have a go on the swings in the meantime?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In what sort of horrible dystopian nightmare do you need to pay to take your kids to a park?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Maybe they were thinking of a fair or something?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably there are many places with no specific provisions against that but surely that would count for authorities as some sort of disruption of traffic, which are intentionally vaguely defined to cover such ambiguous eventualities.

A shame, I think it would be neat.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In major cities in America, just as an example, there is often a statue against "cruising" which is usually defined as passing by the same point more than X number of times in Y span of time. These laws are ostensibly aimed at harassing the (black) "car culture" people while they're showing off their customized vehicles in the 'hood. It's kind of like the vehicular version of anti-loitering laws. But you could probably apply it to OP's case if you were twisted enough.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I don't see why not. I often joke about doing so, and have once or twice gone around and around, but the thrill quickly wears off after two or three passes.

I would love to watch someone commit to the bit and keep on until the authorities take issue.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No mention of roundabout or traffic circles in Ontario's Highway Traffic Act, but the rule that governs are the yield signs around the outside that stipulate that traffic in the roundabout has right of way.

From the Driver's handbook:

Keep moving: Once you are in the roundabout, do not stop except to avoid a collision; you have the right-of-way over entering traffic. Do not change lanes while in the roundabout. If in the inside lane and you miss your exit, you must continue around until you meet your exit again.

This suggests, in Ontario at least, you could stay in the roundabout forever without breaking the rules.

Edit: If you're not bothering anyone doing that, then it should be alright, but if your perpetual roundabout traversing is getting in the way of other people trying to use the roundabout, then it could be considered careless driving:

Careless driving

130 (1) Every person is guilty of the offence of driving carelessly who drives a vehicle or street car on a highway without due care and attention or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the highway. 2017, c. 26, Sched. 4, s. 17.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Only if you're playing Yes at high volume.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Look kids, Parliament, Big Ben!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You could probably stay on the magic roundabout until you ran out of fuel.

But I doubt you could go all the way around a mini roundabout .

The UK Highway Code is focussed on good behaviour when using one. There doesn't seem to be a rule.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I would definitely try at least a couple of loops around that little guy. Just look at it! How could you resist!?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, there is a law. It says, misuse of public roads is forbidden. In the case of a roundabout, misuse starts with your second full circle.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

maybe wanna say where, since laws everywhere are different?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

laws everywhere are different?

But ours are the best ones ;-)

Germany here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Only in a milk float driven by a priest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I suspect that when your car runs out of gas and stalls in the middle of the suicide circle you could get a ticket for blocking traffic or something.

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