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Polish Tourism Minister Sławomir Nitras has called for a Tesla boycott following Elon Musk’s remarks urging Germany to “move past” its Nazi history.

Musk’s comments, made during a far-right AfD campaign event, sparked outrage, particularly in Poland, which lost 6 million people in WWII.

The controversy comes ahead of Germany’s February 23 election and just before Musk’s Tesla earnings call.

As a key advisor to Trump, Musk’s stance could impact Tesla’s market position in Europe, where historical remembrance remains a sensitive issue.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, fuck Elon

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

As a Pole: Its funny to see hoe people in Poland is viewed by other countries vs how its actually viewed.

  1. Soon government starts program of subsidizing buying new EVs. Teslas are not excluded. Its basically poor financing rich's new cars.

https://www.gov.pl/web/nfosigw/program-naszeauto-do-40-tys-zl-doplaty-do-samochodu-elektrycznego

  1. Main opposition party demands deposition from minister who made unfortunate slip of the tounge and didnt immediately correct herself on international conference on 80th anniversary of liberating of the largest concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau. "In the territory occupied by Germany, Polish Nazis built camps that were labor camps, which later became mass extermination camps."

https://www.pap.pl/aktualnosci/obozy-zbudowali-niemcy-polskich-nazistow-nie-bylo-barbara-nowacka-przeprasza-za

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just ban Tesla, X and everything else owned by Elon Musk

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Just ban Musk

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

[–] [email protected] 27 points 23 hours ago

And those who do, are condemned to watch the rest of them repeat it. :(

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Those who do remember the past intentionally repeat it because they are fucking Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only way for Germany to move past its Nazi history is not to forget it but to learn from it. For Germany to truly move past its guilt it must:

  1. Ban the AfD (they're in the process) and ensure Europe is free of fascists
  2. Guide Europe toward a bright free future (they are doing this)
  3. Protect Europe from its threats and ensure no nation will ever devisate it again (they're in the process, hopefully they can establish a federal European military)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. Not elect the conservative party who are starting to take up most of the AfD's program and sabotage points 1 through 3 (they're failing catastrophically when looking at polls)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They need to have their leadership banned

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think you mean shot and fed to the wolves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Fascists will never ever be not guilty

[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The Swedish strike is still ongoing. The German protest against their factory is still ongoing. The cyber truck can never be approved for use on roads in all of Europe. Every fourth Tesla fails the first EU-inspection. The average for all cars is 3%, so it's exceptionally bad.

I don't think a boycott is even necessary. There are enough reasons not to buy a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

It might not be necessary to stop him from selling cars in the EU, but the symbolism of it would be fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

There are soooooo many teslas and cyberfucks in the US. It's horrible

TBF, half the cyberfucks I see are broken down

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They are surving ok here in SoCal but if the rainy season hits hard enough my 24 year old 3 cylinder Tacoma is gonna be out driving them here soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I laughed out the window of my Honda Fit at one that had broken down in -5F weather

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you drive an electric car in -5F weather? Thats just asking for issues, battery drain alone will cause problems add on the cybertrucks shitty build everything and you are mooning fate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because you need to drive somewhere and your car is electric? Come weather makes me that I got a plug-in hybrid rather than a full electric, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I was moreso referring to the cybertruck, the power drain issue could be worked around with preparation such as a heated garage, a battery heater, or just knowing its limits in such an environment. The cybertruck isnt even particularly good against warm weather let alone sub zero environments.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Every fourth Tesla fails the first EU-inspection. The average for all cars is 3%, so it's exceptionally bad.

I also wouldn't buy a car from that freak for various reasons but that high failure rate at the first inspection can be at least partly explained. Tesla - unlike most manufacturers - doesn't do regular inspections on their own. Most cars are checked (and repaired!) by the dealership before they get officially checked. Therefore, the 25% aren't completely comparable to the 3%.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That makes about as much sense as shipping their vehicles without paint. Oh wait...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Top tip: if you want your local cybertruck off the road. E scooters can total them by denting the impossible to repair body panels.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Interesting, so they are externalizing QA to dealerships? Do they own the dealerships?

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (5 children)

As an aside, I love the irony of that speech. Musk tells the wannabe Nazis that they can forget about the sins of their (great)grandparents.

The idiots of the AFD want to forget the past simply so they can repeat it.

They want to repeat the sins of their forefathers, they just don't want to be reminded of the consequences that followed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

I somewhat disagree. They don't want to forget, they want to finish the job. They have immense pride in something they should feel shame for. That, I think, is the issue. The unwillingness to feel shame, so they replace that feeling with over-zealous pride.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Still grandparents in a lot of cases. I’m 40 and my grandfather fought the Japanese in WWII.

Plenty of people left on this planet who had grandparents on every side of that war.

Or maybe your parentheses was meant to cover both.

Yeah it was.

Fuck it. I typed it. Maybe some other idiot will read it wrong.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Hey, hey. We can start a club!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

He wants them to put aside their past guilt so they can focus on the hypothetical future guilt

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I had the same question with Trump copying so many of his political plays from 1930s Germany… does he… does he know how the story ended?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

He thinks Hitlers generals were loyal so... Nope. Seriously even the Wehrmacht foot soldiers turned on the Nazis in the end openly attacking the SS.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago

it's only been 80 years, these motherfuckers can't get over the US civil war after 160 years.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Any democratic society should boycott Tesla until Musk is removed from the company.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Alternatives to spacex are Roskosmos and NASA, which buys engines from first two.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Divests from.. him being investee in a company should disqualify it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Doesn't matter, he owns the stock and gets rich anyway.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

The EU should impose a continent-wide ban on Tesla imports (or steep tariffs eh? Why not copy the orange peel) until Tesla offloads Musk - including buying back his shares.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The EU should prepare for a trade war, but it shouldn’t take the first shot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

In this instance, this isn't a trade war, it's a war against neo-Nazism. Imposing tarrifs specifically on Tesla wouldn't be about helping European car manufacturer, it would be about extinguishing Musk's rhetoric.

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