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Funny, I'm pretty sure they lose their shit whenever any of these words show up in a conversation: queer, cis, pronouns, they/them (programming.dev)

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funny part about "Kamala campaign can't target men" is that they can't target men because they refuse to employ the crass humor needed to effectively target the kind of men they currently fail to target. They know what they have to do, they simply aren't strong enough to do it.

They lost because they won't say slurs. People are not ready for this conversation.

Hadn't thought of this before, but it makes sense. Men just won't take you seriously if you're offended by or scared of words.

Straight from one of the shittier parts of the fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

I hate when people say "people are not ready for this conversation", it just shows they are completely uninterested in any actual discussion about the matter. If anyone responds with any criticism, even if it's very reasonable, they'll just say "told you people weren't ready for it lol".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

The saddest part is that they aren't wrong. The majority of men who voted for Trump, this is entirely accurate for.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kamala retained more male Biden voters than female. So these people need to let go of this line

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Neoliberals will do anything to find some culture-war issue to scapegoat so that they don't have to admit that voters hate their economic policy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I'm staying in the light partner you ain't eatin me this time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

2tru

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (4 children)

My impression of the Trump campaign is that they understood what issues their support base cared about, and did very well at talking about those issues.

Things like the economy, cost of living, crime etc were front and centre of their campaigns, and things like immigration ultimately stem from those issues.

Whether they actually make anything better is another question, but they definitely knew what to say.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Appealing to tribalism and giving people a boogeyman to blame for all their problems is the oldest trick in the book. It's akin to using bikini models in used car ads. If you fall for it, you're a schmuck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Both your comment and the one you replied to are true.

Trump's "solutions" to the working-class' problems are absolutely blatant scams, but in some fucked-up way that still managed to be preferable to the Democrats trying to gaslight them that their problems didn't exist at all.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not sure how you got that from "we're going to fix the economy", but OK.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Their entire platform is blaming immigrants and trans people for everything. Deporting people is somehow going to fix everything. Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bikini models will fix the economy!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago

OK buddy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

You misspelled "lying about"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

And people predicted exactly that after trumps first term. This is the platform that wins any election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Kamala knew exactly what to say too but "Genocide Bad" was a bridge too far.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think you'd be horrified by how little the typical American cares about Gaza, to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

I'm not horrified, I'm exhausted of it. I'm 40, its been going on my entire life. I'm sorry but its not a hot button issue for me. Theres always a war somewhere, some tribal dispute, some ethnic cleansing... and nothing ever changes. Eventually someone wins and theres peace for a while, even if the cunts are in charge.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She also refused to say if she would keep Lina Khan and other things. There were a ton of stories about how she was talking to billionaires to get their donations too. Might not have been 'just' Gaza, but there was nothing there for the working class. She even managed to piss off the Teamsters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Same issue. Basically no one knew who Lina Khan outside of lemmy or reddit.

She was the best FTC head in our nation's history, but got basically zero press out of niche online spaces. She was in no way a factor in swinging votes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Working-class voters may not have known who Lina Khan was, but they definitely got the "vibes" that Trump was at least pretending to care about them in a way that Harris was absolutely not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

bUt PrOtEsT vOtEs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Aren't you so glad you now have Trump in place who essentially said he wants to actively help Israel complete their genocide?

I never understood how they constructed an anti-Kamala argument out of the fact that literally every US politician has an irrationally strong and simplistic anti-Palestine and pro-Israel stance for as long as Israel existed.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

These kinds of men that are constantly focused on what it means to be a 'man' are the biggest fucking insecure snowflakes of them all. These are the kind of people who act like their entire race and gender is being erased when 1 in 10 Marvel movies don't have a white male lead. When all attention isn't on them, they spit their pacifiers out and wail.

Take this election for example. It wasn't about them. Even if they don't care about queer people (we know they don't), it was also about doing the right thing for their mothers and their sisters and their daughters. But because the poor, hard done by white man wasn't given as much importance as people who are literally getting their rights taken away, they decided join the oppressors and spit in their mothers' faces.

Not because they're men but because they're pieces of shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I think it is actually worse than what you describe. Even just ignoring all the social issues and focusing on economic factors seriously would have made Trump an unelectable candidate but they prioritize their culture wars over everything else, that whole "I don't care if it hurts me as long as it hurts them more" mindset is strong with them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

You just said it. They are saying the quiet part out loud. They don’t attack the right people to get the racists, misogynists, or generally bigoted assholes on their side.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

The biggest "snowflakes" have always been conservatives. So afraid of anyone who doesn't look or act like them.