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[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (3 children)

AI has been built on theft. Pirate everything. Fuck Billionaires!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Capitalism is built on theft, AI is just the latest excuse

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Yup build by thief for thief

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

🏴‍☠️🦜

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think she is right. It is just as it said an impersonation of him. It sounds like him, the jokes are similar to the point like someone took the best known pieces and tried to use them to generate new jokes, but despite that, it still doesn't feel like him.

I think the difference is that George Carlin had some commentary to say how things are fucked up and just used humor, because otherwise it would be very depressing.

It reminds me like Jon Stewart leaving the Daily Show and the show being taken by Trevor Noah. Yeah, Trevor wasn't bad, but with him the show just went back to be only comedy and nothing else. Jon actually was doing comedy, but he wanted to improve things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

If anything the George Carlin-imitating AI serves to highlight that the brilliance of Carlin was in his thinking, not in his shtick of delivering cynical jokes in his signature fashion. The AI captures the cynicism and the voice and at least in part the delivery, yet it just left me bored. Carlin on the other hand I can listen to again and again.

I guess it's like training a moral philosophy bot. Sure, you could train an AI on everything Immanuel Kant has ever written and it would be capable of delivering an endless series of platitudes that sound like something Kant could have written, but it's not going to become a Kantian philosopher, and you'll be better off just reading Kant.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

It’s actually a way to generate unlimited energy. That man is spinning in his grave at 6,000 rpm. Do one for Bill Hicks and Sean Locke and we have solved the energy crisis folks.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I had to sit and listen to it before I could form an opinion.

Some of the bits early on, where it just lists five or six things in a row, were pretty rough. Carlin would have done better.

But there is one joke that is subversive enough that I refuse to believe the AI wrote alone:

https://youtu.be/2kONMe7YnO8#t=43m18s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

That one was pretty good. But yeah, I'm betting the entire video had a lot of human shaping to get it done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Infinite monkeys...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Do you think we're headed towards a future like the Matrix or more like the Terminator?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

hoping for star trek future-- although that means the next 40-50 years will be pretty terrible.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bell Riots are coming this year. The Second American Civil War starts in 2026, which leads directly into WWIII.

From there, everything is pretty much terrible until warp drive is invented.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

it's creepy how specific (and prophetic) the star trek writers were about our future. other than the Eugenics Wars not happening in the 90s, they've been pretty spot-on. let's just hope that they're right about April 5, 2063.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No eugenics wars in the 90s? The Bosnia-Serbian conflict??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The one predicted in Star Trek had to do with genetically engineered Superman, trying to take over the world. So a little bit different than that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Classic Bosnian-Serbian conflict!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The Bell Riots story line is by far my fave DS9 arc. There’s a really good Terry Pratchett book with roughly the same concept that is also my favorite of his books. It’s called Night Watch.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well, it would be nice to think there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How many lights do you see?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Three. I hope that isn't a train.

edit: I think it is a train.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

🖖 <-- that light

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

We'll be lucky to have any kind of future

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think it'll be 90% idiocracy and 10% Capitalist Star Trek

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Dune. There will be a butlerian jihad against thinking machines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

But at least we get drugs that let us see the future

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unlike the show, humanity would totally be enslaved by worm heads in like, a day.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm still holding out for Weird Science.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This scenario wasn't in either movie. This is more like something out of Time Gate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does that one have a happy ending?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It's a sci-fi setting where AI is used to "resurrect" famous dead people, and there's a virtual world where all of these famous people can interact. So, you could have a synthetic Socrates debating a synthetic Mark Twain, for example.

I thought it was ridiculous, but it really looks like that's the way we're headed now.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

No machine will ever replace his genius

Wow, way to hurt Robo-George's feelings...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

But she doesn’t blast it on her speakers because it isn’t funny

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Had trouble making it through even the first couple of minutes.

Sorry, not for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I genuinely tried listening to it with an open mind. It was just rehashed content. No new insights with modern day context.

George Carlin's work from decades ago somehow still seems more relevant even now, and the new AI based version doesn't seem capable of holding truth to account.

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