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[–] [email protected] 377 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Remember back when Elon kept calling himself a Free Speech Absolutist? That just gets funnier every day.

[–] [email protected] 167 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Right-wingers only seem to care about free speech when it applies to themselves. Anyone else and they'll get talking of "defeating the woke mind virus" or whatever ridiculous way they decide to demonize others.

Reminds me of that Sartre quote

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

My speech or the highway!

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (18 children)

The_donald was the only lesson I needed to learn what conservatives thought of free speech.

It would be interesting to know what conservatives actually believe. By this point we've broken down each and everyone of their professed beliefs and found nothing of substance.

Here is a list of things I remember conservatives use to say their ideology was based on:

*Christian morals - You can even look back at their warped version of Christian morality from 1970s forward and still say today that Trump has fully exposed them to be baseless

*Small government - Trump and Co are actively trying to expand government authority and have successfully taken away the rights of woman all over the US

*Democracy - Trump told democracy to go fuck itself Jan. 6 2021

*Capitalism - Capitilism for the serfs socialism for the capitilists

*American Exceptionalism - At some point America was great but I'm not going to say when.

*No Child Left Behind - jk jk we knew that was bullshit from the get go

*Free speech - ahem I mean free 'hate' speech. all other speech is negotiable.

The list goes on my dudes. Would love to know what these people really believe. My guess is nothing. They are just mad and acting out. We've all seen it growing up. The people who just refuse to help themselves no matter what you do and you're constantly picking up the pieces for them.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

"Conservatives don't care about free speech. Conservatives cares about power. Faithfulness, old-time values, homemade bread, that’s the just means to the end. It’s a distraction. I thought you would have figured that out by now."

  • slightly altered quote from Handmaid's Tale
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[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago

Free speech absolutist means "I am absolutely free from the consequences of my speech"

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[–] [email protected] 302 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No explanation other than Elon is a thin-skinned little bitch baby who’s carrying water for fascists.

[–] [email protected] 227 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He’s not carrying water for the facists, he IS a fascist and they’re trying to spill that water on everyone in an attempt to undermine people’s freedoms. Fuck him and fuck his kind

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I don't get why people still use that platform. It's so hostile to the users. This is an election year and we're just going to give him all this influence? Society is a big dumb animal.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Anyone who follows the alt-right, did Joe or anyone else go ape shit over this yet? I'm assuming that because they were going crazy over the previous Twitter about certain infractions under the old guard ... so this new shit must be driving them crazy. Being free speech activists and all that.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This was always going to happen.

Muskrat bought twitter specifically to make it Parler, GAB, and Truth Social all rolled into one.

Banning, shadow-banning, or purging any and all dissenting views or content that differs from the Far Right narrative on the sites is the norm.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Saudis helped him buy it to try to stop future Color Revolutions

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Free speech absolutist,okay?

It means absolutely no free speech to anyone criticizing him

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I don't understand why people don't collectively quit Twitter and flock to Mastodon. It's very simple, it's better for everyone

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Because for the previous 15ish years before Musky got a hold of it it was actually decently regarded. Many people turned to it for up to date news and trusted it. It was a place where brands could interact with customers, celebrities with fans, etc. It had built up trust. People are having a hard time letting that go.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Even today there are top posts on Lemmy that are screen caps of Twitter. Not even Lemmy users can stop reading Twitter and upvoting. I down vote them on principle but it's 100 to 1.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago

Reddit and by extension Lemmy were designed to enable content aggregation. I dislike people having so few principles in general but the system is working as intended by users posting things they find interesting happening elsewhere.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Who the fuck is still on Xitter? Jesus people, get the hell out of there!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

i keep wondering this myself, so many places are still prominently presenting the xitter button to follow them on,like it's a totally normal thing to do. it's fucking bizzare imo.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So only fascists allowed now.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago

Elon "Free speech absolutist" Musk.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The Nazi bar is open for business

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Censorship for thee, not for me.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Anyone who expects the bourgeoisie to platform those whose politics are a threat to capitalist interests is a fool.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No, no, there's an explanation. The owner.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (3 children)

No official, public explanation. We know why...

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (13 children)

X it's the new "Truth Social"

Elon bought it to make it the christofascist heaven on earth.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (22 children)

I don't like that, "leftist", has become a word used outside conservative circles. It sounds shitty and is as meaningless as, "rightist".

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are we allowed to say he's gone mask off yet?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (7 children)

What were journalists and leftists doing hanging out in a Nazi bar anyway?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

Needless to say, just like if r/conservative/conspiracy bans you you're probably doing something Right, X is just the new, louder, conservative/conspiracy echo chamber, although i still don't get why everyone senseable hasn't abandoned the platform yet.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Remember when Musk painted himself as a free speech absolutist who would bring freedom to Twitter, and all of his fanboys believed him, and when he never delivered none of them did ever fucking care?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (7 children)

If people would just use Mastodon instead of Xwitter this sort of thing would not happen.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Musk can do whatever he wants, keeping Twitter (sorry, X, yuck) alive with billions that are peanuts to him. This news isn’t a surprise to me. He talked big about free speech, but it was just talk.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

Musk's "free speech" is a lot like the Lost Cause's "states rights": a fig leaf that intentionally tries to distract from the fact that the only speech/right of concern was that of the most repugnant behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Don't care. The only people that can get kicked off of shitter are people still on shitter propping up it's waning credibility. There are no respectable people left on shitter because you can no longer simultaneously be there and be respectable.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (8 children)

What a coincidence. People critical of israel got banned

The account @Zei_Squirrel, which had 200,000 followers, explained in a Substack post that it was suspended over criticisms of Israel and Bill Ackman but was also not provided with an explanation from X. “If they don’t unban me, it will prove beyond all doubt that Twitter and Elon Musk are just explicitly doing the bidding of the genocidal Israeli regime and its deranged supporters like Bill Ackman.” The post continues, “There is no possibility that anything I have posted rises to the level of being ban-worthy, but nothing that Zionists posts constantly, explicit calls for genocide and mass killing of Palestinians, isn’t.”

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I really do wish there was a viable popular alternative to Twitter. Phony Starks has been awful.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

Night of the Long Bans.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

Dead platform!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

time to follow them on mastodon I guess.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Where is the "vote" to reinstate their accounts that closes like 58 minutes after going up?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

It's a conspiracy and fascism echochamber. No prominent journalists should be there either way

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