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AirTag 2 not expected until 2025 as Apple sits on backlog of first-gen inventory::If you’ve been hoping for a second-generation AirTag, you’ll have to keep waiting. According to a new report from Bloomberg,...

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 8 months ago (3 children)

“If you’ve been hoping for a second-generation AirTag”

People are clamoring for the second generation of a Bluetooth luggage tracker?

[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Remember this is Apple we're talking about. Gen 2 will introduce additional form factors and fanboys will call it "game changing", "amazing", and god knows what else.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Air tag pro, in our newly invented color "basically black"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Now with the iStalk+ monthly service!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For only $50/month disable tracker detection on your trackers!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

"it's our most AirTag ever"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

New form factor you say?

Credit card sized trackers are handy for wallets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, there aren’t a lot of credit card sized trackers with a good tracking. Chipolo recently launched one with Find My support, but from what I can tell, most other credit card trackers are on pretty small networks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I was using those for the better part of a decade. Cut over to the AirTags recently. The tracking network is night and day.

If Google’s rumored tracker launches as expected this year, and Android is also has a core tracking service that doesn’t require a third party app install, Tile’s days are numbered.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Next gen will be a square with rounded edges. Oh and the pro version will come in dark gray! But personally I prefer the round ones so I‘ll wait for the 3rd generation.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

You don’t want the AirTag2 Pro? It’s titanium.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

For a lot of Apple users it's about flaunting that you have the latest toy. A multi year old device is not a good status symbol.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

OK, well… What would people want in a second generation AirTag anyway that couldn’t be addressed with software updates? Who, other than profit-hungry shareholders, can even see a need for a second generation AirTag? The original works just fine.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Work it harder. Make it better.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Only thing I could see is making them somewhat harder to tamper with and sealed with a rechargeable battery.

They fit on the Apple Watch charger exactly. A lot of people assumed they were originally supposed to be rechargeable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know how that could possibly been seen as an “upgrade”.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, it’s a stretch for sure.

That said, because the tracking network is way broader than the other BT trackers, so stalkers love use and mod these little things. And they’re very un-Apple like, in that they’re easy to open up.

Stalking has been the one thing that AirTags constantly get slammed for in the press about. I wouldn’t be surprised if they sold an updated tracker that was sealed, packed full of resin, and marketed as “more secure.”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It could be used to make the device completely waterproof.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of waterproof devices with replaceable batteries.

The idea you have to seal in the battery (and the device goes to landfill instead of getting a replacement) is a myth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Of course it can be made waterproof with a replaceable battery, but would you trust your grandma to swap such a battery so that it stays waterproof?

Would you want to be the customer support for a device like that with a billion users? The amount of idiots failing to close the case properly and drowning their device is staggering, and the idiots are usually the ones who call CS to complain…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

EU objects. The replaceable battery regulation kicks in 2025 and I believe it will apply to devices like AirTag.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Tile works on both platforms

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Wile true, AirTag has significantly more coverage because all iPhones, regardless of AirTag ownership, transmit AirTag data. Tile, on the other hand, only works when people have the tile app installed and (ifaik) running in the background.

Edit: tile, not time

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apple opened up the find my network to third party trackers but I don’t think tile has decided to join it yet. Looks like this brand supports it though: https://chipolo.net/en-us/products/chipolo-card-spot

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Apparently, that specific device is also exclusive to the “Find My” network

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Tiles are fine for stuff around the house, but if you leave something out in the wild, that’s where they shit the bed. Tile’s tracking network is dependent upon people willingly installing the Tile app. Apple’s FindMy network was deployed via an OS release that most iPhones auto updated to.

Google is about to follow Apple’s lead and bake something into Android. Once that happens, Tile is up shit creek. They will have the worst tracking network on both iOS and Android.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

tbh i think Samsung's one is better just because of much larger network of devices

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm looking forward to the promised Android alternative. It should be coming any day now...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

They've only been on preorder for half a year...

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

The current version has a replaceable battery, so I don’t see any reason to upgrade to some other device.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Maybe if they where cheaper people would be buying them in droves

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Last year they were up to $1B sales.

They’re around $25 and priced pretty similarly to Tile an Chipolo. And unlike Tile, they’re actually good at precision tracking outside of your home.

Of all the stuff Apple sells, these things actually seem priced well. They’re like $5 more than the competition, but they have a much broader network.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Samsung ones have a pretty huge network too, especially in the eu

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The trouble is Samsung is only for it's own ecosystem. The Google version should render the Samsung one obsolete.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My bike cost 1000€, the cost of an AirTag is a rounding error when keeping it safe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not everyone owns a 1k bike.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

No, but I bought the pack of four and it's nice to have one on my bike, in my car, and in my bag where my laptop and iPad live when I'm traveling.

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