We still don't have a real budget and also a debt ceiling crisis. But sure. Great priorities.
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Put your money where your mouth is an deport the most well known illegal immigrant for all his sexual abuse and harassment: Elon.
We should deport people with, and I’m just pulling a random number here, 34 or more felonies.
Funny coincidence. *squints*
If this becomes law, I wonder how it will end up affecting US agriculture, and through it, the food supply.
We already know. The answer is: poorly.
Do you think these ~~people~~ fuckheads are missing something the rest of us presume all others have, like object permanence?
What if they can't imagine ripe produce rotting in the fields?
Read the comments section on various WSJ articles when these sorts if aetickes are published. The solution is always and every time that American workees are lazy, so take away all and any oftheir benefits and that will force them to work.
Indentured slavery of thwir fellow citizens appears to be the answer, instead of indentured slavery of immigrants
Nterstibgky in Australia when the point comes uo it's always and everybtiine pay more and offer better conditions.
We never seem to rin oit of people for banking ot finance jobs, sone start uo selling crystal eggs you shove in the eye of your cock to ward away evil spirits or whatever , just farm labouring , construction etc why is that?
"unskilled labor" is an excuse I've heard regarding removal of rights and safety net.
They won't have to imagine it if this shit gets passed. It's a foregone conclusion that it's what will 100% happen.
I'm not too familiar with that specific Georgia's law, but from the article it cracks down on illegal immigration and the companies that hire them.
I don't think that this specific law is the issue, illegal immigration and all the exploitation of vulnerable people that come with that status needs to end.
How about we end it by legalizing them and letting them continue to do their jobs if they want to do them?
There is a process for legalising them which they can go through.
I doubt you have looked into what that process entails or you wouldn't be saying that. So how about we just legalize their presence and let them continue to do their jobs if they want to do them? They're paying taxes and contributing to the economy.
I do think that the immigration processes need an overhaul, but this is one of the things i would describe as a necessary evil. I don't think America (or any developed country for that matter) would fare well if they were to make immigration and citizenship attainment a very easy process.
Would developed countries be able to control the potential security risks, increased labour markets, lower wages and housing scarcity that would occur as a result of massive migration from the third world? I personally don't think so.
No one said anything about citizenship. Don't muddy the waters. This is about legal immigration status so that they can work.
Would developed countries be able to control the potential security risks, increased labour markets, lower wages and housing scarcity that would occur as a result of massive migration from the third world? I personally don’t think so.
These are people who are already here. Again, this is not what we are talking about.
Fair enough. I might've misunderstood your argument a little there.
Is the process reasonable? No, of course it's not, because that's the point. You can't abuse citizens as much as you can abuse foreigners. If you don't believe me, move to a different country and find out.
A tale as old as America. Some 1963 history for y'all:
Kimble and a group of farm workers are surrounded in the hills by a huge fire and he must reveal that he's a doctor in order to save the life of a pregnant, illegal immigrant.
More plot details from that page:
Dr. Kimble, harvesting onions at an onion field, faces hostility from the other farm workers. A number of them are Mexican laborers who are suspicious about his presence - after all, he doesn't look like one of them. The workers are recruited to help fight a forest fire. When a pregnant woman starts to feel labor pains, the nurse discovers she can't have a natural delivery. They need an obstetrician to perform a cesarean section. But with fire all around them, and the roads blocked, it's impossible to get to a hospital in time.
And the genocide begins.
I don't think deporting immigrants who don't have status counts as a genocide. We should avoid watering down key words.
With increased deportations it's going to cause a problem with housing all these people while they await deportation proceedings. The options are to build huge camps and prisons to hold these people or expedite their deportation, which would ultimately result in American citizens and legal immigrants being deported. Large camps and prisons will cause a huge amount of family separation and large scale abuse and possibly issues with starvation and other humanitarian atrocities. You're completely unaware that there are over ten million illegal immigrants in the u.s.
It can absolutely be criminal, be a human rights violation, be state terrorism, be oppression. It just doesn't fit the UN definition of Genocide.
Cultural genocide is genocide. Just cause you don't consider them legal doesn't mean they don't have friends family and culture here. Justify it anyway you want but don't say it's "watering down" just cause you don't know what that word fully means and don't care about this particular form of genocide.
It's a pretty hot potato word so I generally stay with the UN definition. As I said on another comment it can be bad, it can be a human rights violation and state oppression without being Genocide.
Do you think this will just stop with immigrants? Do you think racist cops are going to care if brown people are here legally or not? Do you think they'll even care if they have an ID with them?
I didn't say it was in full swing, I said it begins.
This sounds very tinfoil hat-ish.
Not saying I don't somewhat agree with what youre getting at, but you sound like you think the world is already over, or that not a single moral is left on earth.
It's not tinfoil hat-ish at all. It has happened more than once already.
https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/07/30/ice-deport-us-citizens/
There's a difference between what's been labeled as "a mistake" per the article you shared and what you're alluding as by intention.
Also, semi-related. It's important I think to mention US citizenship is broken into 3 types: US Citizen, Naturalized US Citizen, and Non Citizen. This is more likely to be a problem for Naturalized Citizens than US born. Each is different in their own ways.
https://immigrationlawyersusa.com/can-a-us-citizen-be-deported/
from a linked article
Victims include a landscaper snatched in a Home Depot parking lot in Rialto and held for days despite his son’s attempts to show agents the man’s U.S. passport; a New York resident locked up for more than three years fighting deportation efforts after a federal agent mistook his father for someone who wasn’t a U.S. citizen; and a Rhode Island housekeeper mistakenly targeted twice, resulting in her spending a night in prison the second time even though her husband had brought her U.S. passport to a court hearing.
kinda hard to believe they're just mistakes, if the article to be believed.
What exactly do you think that difference is going to be going forward?
But I can see you're making excuses for these fascists and their genocidal plans, so I think this is a fruitless discussion.