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I like Ad Astra. People hate it because they view it as a shitty scifi with lots of plot holes, but I view it from the perspective of brad pitt is actually in therapy in hypnosis or whatever to address the issues he has with his father, and the movie is really the journey through his mind and all the roadblocks and barriers he's built up internally. Then the plot holes seem reasonable and less relevant.

In this thread: I'm mostly finding people I feel I need to add to my "no longer like them" list for irreconcilable differences.

I'm having a hard time deciding what qualifies as "HATED" or highly disliked.

A lot of people hated Edge of Tomorrow because Tom Cruise. But I am actually quite fond of the movie.

A lot of people hate Apocolypto, and it's objectively a terrible movie from a historical as well as moral/ethical perspective, I don't disagree there. But at the end of the day it is entertaining if you can turn your brain off.

Joker: Folie à Deux

If you’re not a Joker fanboy and have an open mind, this is a damn good film.

This is kind of a cheat, as it's been significantly re-evaluated since its release, so I'm not alone, but IMO Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me is a masterpiece - it was HATED when it came out though, and even now I suspect there's a lot of people who would say the same.

I’m sure the films would have been far far far better received if they hadn’t completely trashed almost every single character trait that had been established over decades and decades of world building. He took an established ip and tore it to bits to make a film. If he’d have given the characters different names no one would’ve known it was a Star Trek film. The new films have literally no continuity with all that came before. I think that’s where the hate comes from.

Wouldn't say really enjoyed, but Cats didn't deserve the hate it got. I saw it with my (then) girlfriend about five years ago when Frozen 2 was sold out and we had the choice of seeing this, Star Wars Episode IX, or Jumanji: The Next Level instead. We chose Cats.

I'm gonna ignore the elephant in the room that's the atrocious CGI, and say that Tom Hooper didn't do a terrible job besides that. Most of the movie adaptations of each song were at least on-par with the musical. 'Jellicle Songs For Jellicle Cats', 'Bustopher Jones' and 'Skimbleshanks The Railway Cat' were the three that stood out as the movie's best songs.

Only three songs were far worse than the musical, and they were big ones...

The Old Gumbie Cat was awful. Rebel Wilson absolutely butchered Jennyanydots by portraying her as a fat lazy glutton, complete with awful voice, awful ad-lib jokes thrown around the song and a part where she literally starts munching on CGI humanoid cockroaches marching around the dinner table. I mean... as much as I hate James Corden, he at least played the role of Bustopher Jones (a literal aristocratic fat-cat) really well, and unlike Wilson, his ad-libs were actually funny. I'd keep him in the cast, 100%.

The Rum Tum Tugger is another bad one. Jason Derulo's vocal performance was really weak, but I don't have much else to say about it.

Magical Mr Mistoffelees was the worst though. Hooper legitimately took the most iconic song from Cats and massacred it by portraying the titular musician who ultimately saves Old Deuteronomy as a nervous wreck. This is one that the Rum Tum Tugger should have sang, like in the original West End/Broadway musical. I got what he was trying to do with this decision but it just didn't work.

If I were in Tom Hooper's shoes, there are four things I'd change:

1. Redo the CGI
2. Replace Rebel Wilson with Lea Michele. She is probably one of the best actresses who could play Jennyanydots.
3. Replace Jason Derulo with Brendon Urie. Imagine Panic! At The Disco's frontman singing the Rum Tum Tugger and Magical Mr Mistoffelees. 'Nuff said...
4. Redo the three bad songs listed above to make them more like the musical.

Fired Up!

Was genuinely surprised to see it rated so low. I enjoyed it at least as much as Not Another Teen Movie. I appreciated all the fast quips and it being a satire of a cheerleader movie while simultaneously being a cheerleader movie.

Crystal Skull

People really like to hate on Jurassic World, but I quite enjoyed it.

Chicken Little - I'm not here to defend it, but it has a place in my heart.

“Freddy Got Fingered”. Not a masterpiece but I found it hilarious. Was surprised it was rated so low online 🤷‍♂️

Trap - Absolutely ridiculous movie with an insane plot. Basically a promo for the director's daughter to launch a pop star career IRL. It should be distasteful, and it is, however it was such dumb fun I'm ignoring all of those bad points.

i always thought the last jedi was one of the best star wars films

The Prince of Persia movie. Also God's of Egypt.

Hamlet 2 is genuinely hilarious, and I watch it far more often than I should.