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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I don't know if this is the type of thing you were asking, but it's one I've been using about once a week lately.

I was listening to How I Built This with Guy Raz, and he had on a lady that wanted to eliminate food waste. She started the app Too Good To Go.

Partner businesses will pack up about $15 of food at the end of the shift, and instead of tossing it, they put it in a to go box for you for $5.

Tonight we had jerk chicken and sides from a Caribbean place, another time we got 4 big pizza slices overloaded with toppings, and our favorite is the Manhattan Bagels gives us 15-17 bagels. We've also tried a vegan bakery, which is way too expensive for us, but for my girlfriend's nephew with a severe egg allergy was a great surprise.

These are all places we wouldn't normally go, but they've all been really tasty, helped eliminate some waste, and let us try some new restaurants for a fiver. We're kinda in the country, so there aren't too many options, but I looked in the nearby city and there are a lot, and the app started in Europe, so you non-US people don't have to miss out.

So maybe not the super cheap lentil curry recipe I have, but this was an intriguing things I recently learned about and have been looking to share awareness about.

Even if you don't have much cash, it still feels nice to be able to get restaurant food sometimes too, and this is a cheap and mutually beneficial way to do that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I remember back in the day a few food court places did this. They'd preload a to-go container with a ton of food and mark it for $5 about 30 minutes before the mall closed. I haven't seen a food court do this since 2008 though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

This sounds pretty much exactly like that. It's about the only downside, as it's first come (to reserve a box in the app), first served, and you get a half hour pickup window.

The way they sell it to places is they make it so it's no more work than just tossing it would be, but you get a sale.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We found it too and it's awesome. A huge bag of tamales and pastries from our local Mexican bakery, $6.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Exactly! I wish I had tamales near me!

Though I do make a mean tamale pie, and that's a pretty good cheap way to stretch out leftover protein when it isn't enough left to feed the both of us.

Not healthy, but damn good for leftovers! 😁

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is a great tip. We this in Berlin. It's great to just walk to a random area in the evening, open the app up and see what's available for pickup in the area.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

That was another thing that had gotten my interest about it. I recently started a new job that was in an area I wasn't familiar with, so I've gotten to get a sampling of the restaurants there for next to nothing.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Sous vide cooking. It's easy to buy a bulk quantity of food, vac-pack and cook it, then freeze it. This saves time and money both on purchase, initial prep, and mealtime prep.

For example, we buy a whole, locally-grown, grass-fed chuck flap. We trim, bag, and cook the entire flap in one day. This provides my partner and me about six weeks of meals with high quality protein. Added bonus: the juice and gelatin in the bag after cooking makes excellent soup stock or cooking liquid for beans. Double added bonus: a sous vide chuck steak is just as good as the best ribeye fillet.

Also learn to use an entire chicken. For example, spatchcock and roast the chicken for dinner. Break down the carcass to get every scrap of meat. Make chicken salad the next day. Roast the bones, make a mirepoix, and make chicken stock. Use that to make chicken and dumplings or chicken soup. The two of us eat for a week from one chicken.

Learn about food preservation and safety: reusable containers, dangerous food conditions, fermentation, canning, making stocks... A huge part of saving money on food is not wasting any of it. Being able to buy in-season food when it's cheaper and more nutritive is a big deal.

And on that note: avoid cheap, low-nutrition food. Sure, that industrial, NPK produce and ultra-processed box meal might be "affordable." But those tend to be empty calories; you have to eat more of it to feel sated and get the nutrition you need. Locally grown, in-season foods tend to be better food values since you need to eat less of them to get the same micronutrients. See: "The Doritos Effect," by Mark Schatzker.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is quite the rabbit hole!

Any resources for someone starting off?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My goto for all things savory is Serious Eats, and specifically J. Kenji Lopez-Alt's work on the topic: https://www.seriouseats.com/search?q=sous+vide

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I did not know it was safe to freeze after the sous vide water-bath.

Thanks for that!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just gotta watch out for freezer burn and avoid the food being in the temperature danger zone for a significant time. The real issue here is that you're essentially applying three separate transformations to your food (cooking, then freezing, then cooking again), which compounds the amount of possible error in your finished result.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Freezer burn is a function of air reaching the food while frozen. Use a chamber vacuum sealer that can pull vacuum into single-digits mmHg. We live on a sailboat, and our freezer is set at 22F/-5.5C for energy conservation. Never had freezer burn.

Here's some more info on food safety with sous vide cooking: https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/articles/1131-is-sous-vide-safe

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

My only worry are EDCs. They are heavily present in plastic, and sous-vide bags are no exception.

EDIT: EDC refers to Endochrine Disrupting Chemicals, proven to be a big problem for reproduction.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Well, goddammit, I just had a huge reply typed out, and the website deleted it when the text window lost focus. Okay, super short version: /u/akrot raises a good point, and we would all do well to apply harm reduction and awareness of EDCs in our lives. They are ubiquitous and insidious. In my case, sous vide cooking is one of the very few explicit uses I concede to single-use plastic in my life. It is also one of the few points in my kitchen that food touches plastics.

We must all pick our own battles, and everyday EDCs demand some awareness-raising.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Every Day Carries? Like a bunch of knives and flashlights?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

When you order pizza, ask for extra sauce, not cheese. They typically don't charge for that but often include extra toppings to make the pizza look "normal"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Meal planning carefully to take advantage of sales, buy in bulk when possible, and eliminate food waste. I have my meals planned out through the end of January and I do this every month. The money I spend on groceries has halved since I started using this approach.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As weird as it sounds, paying for a meal delivery service has really cut down our cost for food. We used to be poor planners, so would just go to the store and buy staples without having actual meals planned out in advance. More often than not, nothing really looked good or we wouldn't have all the ingredients to make a meal, so we'd order out.

For the price of ordering out once a week, we now have ingredients for 3 or 4 meals delivered to the house every week. Then it takes the guess work out of planning, because it narrows down our options to what we had delivered.

Sure, it's more expensive than doing the planning ourselves and going to the store to buy the ingredients. But it sure does save us a lot of money overall, since we now eat out less than once a week, instead of multiple times per week.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

One thing I've realised after many years of trying to eat cheap and healthy is that not all cheap and healthy food advice applies in every region - you really need local advice to make the best choices possible.

For example, I've often read the advice to eat rice to stay cheap, but where I live, potatoes usually come out to be cheaper, especially just after harvesting. Potatoes are also arguably a better choice from a health perspective.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you're one of the people who like the bowls from fast casual places like Chipotle, Qdoba, or even those poke bowl places, get their non-protein/vegetarian option then go home and add your own protein. This saves about $2-$4 a bowl and can possibly extend the bowl's lifespan into two meals.

I bring it home my bowl and add in my own falafel, chicken, shrimp, or whatever protein I have on hand. Getting frozen protein and airfrying it is the easiest. I guess I could also grill stuff but I'm usually short on time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Haha my buddy used to do the exact opposite. He would go into Chipotle and ask for a bowl of nothing but chicken. Then he would go home and add it to salads, rice bowls, whatever for the rest of the week.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

The highest rated recipe on BBC Good Food is Chilli con Carne. It's cheap and easy to make, and can be dumped on top of a big pile of rice

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/chilli-con-carne-recipe

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Don't tell anyone this, but the ducks in the park are free, you can take as many of them as you want

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah but you gotta catch em first

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I saw a guy do this when I was a kid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Get a rice cooker with a steam tray. Make a cup of rice, with frozen veggies in the tray. Spice the rice if you want (a little cumin with pepper slices makes excellent fajitas).

When I was in college I put rice in everything because it disgusted my flatmates. I could cook a meal and repel mooches at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I don't want to meet anyone who is disgusted by rice. I'm sorry you had to endure that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Cabbages, dried beans/peas/lentils, and collards. Learn to cook these "poor foods" in ways you like - they are cheap and plentiful and amenable to lots of different methods (cabbage, especially). Extend/bulk all the above with rice, farro, polenta, tortillas, or a solid southern cornbread recipe (not sweet and more cornmeal than flour).

I do both collards and beans in an instant pot (not together, though), which cuts down on mess and time. One of my favorite things to do with cabbage is make Kim chi or sauerkraut. Kraut is easier (and a little cheaper, it's just cabbage, salt, and time) and opens up a realm of easy Euro-ish meals (kraut, lentils/potatoes, and sausages, for example, is highly economical, tasty, and filling).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good stuff.

Also, kimchi, one word.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I think that was autocorrect...for whatever reason in decided to capitalize Kim and separate chi...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Instant pot. Throw your leftovers or whatever into it and press the button. Cook beans from dry to tender in less than an hour. Dump bag of Trader Joe frozen kung pao chicken (all the little inner bags of ingredients) and cook for 4 minutes, etc. Better than a microwave, really. You can actually cook stuff in it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Literally just finished cooking Mexican chicken in one for Taco Tuesday. One of our favorite small appliances.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

1 cup of lentils, can tomatoes, carrots, celery, onions, 5 to 6 cups of water, 1 tsp salt. From there season with whatever. Want an Italian taste add oregano, basil, etc. Want more Indian add curry powder, cumin, ginger. It really takes on the flavor profile of whatever you add to it. Inexpensive and very healthy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can substitute ~75% of your meals volume with rice and come out just a satisfied with a fraction of the cost.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Got any go-to recipes?

Lately I've been doing an instant pot basmati rice cooked in beef broth and finished with lime zest and cilantro.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

One idea is to buy frozen pot stickers/dumplings. Those dipped in some soy sauce with rice is cheap and delicious.

If you want to cook a little, add egg, cabbage (thinly sliced), garlic, ginger, and carrots. Basically turns into an egg roll

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I have yet to eat anything from budget bytes that wasn't delicious.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Dr Pepper and Cold Brew make a fantastic mixed drink; it tastes similar to spiced rum with no alcohol.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Soak dried Porcini or Shiitake mushroom in a bowl of warm water for about 20 min (can boil the mushrooms if fresh). The mushrooms then can be used as an ingredient to a variety of recipes but more importantly, the bowl of water is now an umami bomb, and can be used as a broth or seasoning to add a ton of flavor to a bunch of dishes (pasta sauce, soup, stir-fry...)

Porcini in particular has an earthly, nutty taste and can be used to create complex sauces with a "beefy" taste.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you buy milk alternatives regularly it might be worth getting a high powered blender and a nut milk bag and making your own nut milk. Any high powered (2200W) blender will work, you don't need a $500 Vitamix, there are some brands for around $100 on Amazon- CasaCosa is a good one. But a regular or compact blender will not work.

There are shockingly few nuts in a half gallon of almond milk and it takes like 5 minutes including clean up. It only lasts about 4 days in the fridge, so it's twice a week kind of thing, but it's really not difficult. If you use cashews you don't even have to strain it, since they have very little fiber.

If you do use a high fiber nut, like almonds or walnuts, you can save the pulp and use it instead of (or in addition to) regular flour to make quick breads (pumpkin, banana, zucchini, etc.) and pancakes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Crock Pot, skinless chicken thighs, bottled sauce of your choice, frozen veggies of your choice, cook until chicken is done.

Chicken thighs are the cheapest chicken meat and changing up the flavor of sauce and blend of veggies makes it feel like completely different meals.

Serve over rice or pasta, depending on which kind of sauce you used.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lots of beans and rice. So many different meals with beans and rice.

A garden. Or knowing someone with a garden, at some point we all get an excess of something, I gave a big bag of jalapenos to our yard guys at the end of the summer, they were so abundant.

We do use the Too Good to Go app, but not many participating restaurants here, it's more for a treat.

Working at a restaurant that feeds you, I used to work at a place you could come for supper (teatime) before the evening shift. Not a chain place.

Set aside some part of the weekly budget for oil, spices, seasonings, chili paste, condiments. With these you can build variety of flavor into a basic cheap diet and they last awhile, you don't have to buy all of them each time, but always buy some.

ETA: planning the week of meals saves more money than trying to buy cheap foods, for me, but we still have kids at home so the calculation is a little different. I just don't like to - so I make a loose framework, know about 4 of the 7 meals, and keep dry/canned beans and pasta and rice on hand, and there is usually some veg in the garden, so I can leave some room for improvisation. Even that level of planning does save money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Box of saltine crackers and Betty Crocker chocolate frosting, just a few will do ya.  

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Easy (relatively) chowder with random veg, protein and cheese

The only specific ingredients are onions, garlic, spices, heavy cream and at least some cheddar.

Before starting salt all of your veg. This is so they are INTERNALLY seasoned, otherwise you'll have salty soup and bland veg.

Saute your onions (with any other hardy vegetables) and butter can be used if feeling indulgent. Salt as you saute

Once slightly tender add and cook a couple tablespoons of flour (depends on quantity of soup and desired thickness)

Add whatever stock or bullion on hand (I use home made with bones and veg scraps). You could also use plain water if really starving and desperate though.

Once the soup is boiling add a ton of (salted) minced garlic, FRESH CRACKED black pepper, rosemary, thyme, smoked paprika and a couple pinches of mustard powder. These can be fresh or dry, but I do like fresh garlic and fresh cracked pepper (many of the flavors and compounds are highly volatile and will literally float away if stored post cracking). Also be generous with your spices, makes it way tastier.

Add your veg. It can really be anything from broccoli, cauliflower, potatoes, corn, peas, carrots, mushrooms zucchini, celery, cabbage (not too much), bell peppers, etc. experiment and go nuts.

When pot is hot again add your protein, nothing specific. I've used ham, pork, ground beef, ground turkey, deli meat that was gonna go bad, breakfast sausages, Italian sausages, chicken breast and thighs and even tilapia. Make sure to salt them for 15 mins before adding.

When your proteins are not raw and almost cooked add heavy cream (if you don't have much you can also add some milk, you can also freeze milk, let it melt and drip into a container, when halfway melted remove the frozen milk and whatever is collected is highly concentrated because all of the fats in the milk melt much faster than water)

When soup is reduced to desired amount turn off the heat and let it cool to a light simmer. Add your cheese and stir thoroughly. If soup is too hot your cheese will cook and clump up in nasty globs and will not thicken your soup either.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Flour is the highest nutrients per dollar you can buy. Make some bachelor cookies!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Amen.

You can make pasta with flour, water, and salt. Add yeast, and you can make country loaf bread. Add a little sugar, butter, & milk, and you can make white sandwhich bread, or dumplings for soup. These are absurdly easy recipes, almost impossible to mess up. Change the portions, and you have sugar cookies, like you said! Splurge on chocolate chips and you can have chocolate chip cookies. Get some baking soda, and you can make crackers.

Flour's about 80¢/lb. Salt is $10 for 26 oz, which will last many, many recipes. Yeast is $1.50/oz. For $25, you can make about 25 loaves of bread, and still have a bunch of salt left over.

Flour is the single best, and most versitile, calorie-to-dollar value food.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you are forced to consuming mostly cheap packaged goods like Hamburger Helper and the like, add the secret spice blend to make it actually have some flavor:

Salt*, pepper, onion powder, garlic powder and MSG.

*Check the sodium levels already in the packaged food first; if it's already high, you can ignore adding more.

These spices are cheap and make everything so much better. Even non-savory stuff sometimes benefits.

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