Every time i see BYD, I get excited at prospects at 'bringing your own device' and then I realize I can't read, once again.
Maybe one day...
this post was submitted on 02 Jan 2024
160 points (95.5% liked)
Technology
59010 readers
4096 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Why would you get excited for BYOD? If you're bringing your own device you just use personal resources for work purposes, also you give your employer the oportunity of always being available on top of whatever insight they gather from your device using their software. When I had a work phone it would go on airplane mode at the end of my working hours.
If you are the company, sure you save money, but good luck securing any sensitive data on your employee devices, also there is only so many compliance policies that you can enforce on a device you don't own.
Not OP, but it's because I get to use Linux, a platform that I'm much more productive on. Also, with BYOD I can use a laptop that's actually decent, instead of being forced to use a clunky, underspec'd work-provided laptop. In my case, I use a ThinkPad Z13 Gen1 (Ryzen 69xx, 32GB RAM) that's also pretty decent for casual gaming and has excellent battery life and excellent Linux support.
Luckily we have a pretty good BYOD policy at my current workplace, and my employer even compensates us for not using a work laptop.
also you give your employer the oportunity of always being available on top of whatever insight they gather from your device using their software.
I'm not using their software though (as in traditional apps), they're all either web based (such as M365 apps) or via remote desktop (Citrix, for legacy apps). All the web-based apps are filtered with uBlock Origin to get rid of the tracking stuff. The other apps I use for work are all open-source, such as VSCodium, Git, Ansible, Ruby, libvirt etc, so I don't have to worry about them.
All my work stuff runs under a separate user account, with several work-related customisations in place - including a different, boring wallpaper. Once it's home time, I log off, log back into my normal account and bam, it's suddenly turned into a gaming machine, with nothing to do with work.
The best part is, I'm the one fully in control over my machine and don't need to go thru bs bureaucracy to get simple things installed or customised. For instance, back when I was new to the job and wanted to get Dark Reader (harmless browser extension) installed on my work machine, I got rejected with some bs excuse. Switched to BYOD and now I can use all the extensions I want.
Finally, the next time I replace/upgrade my machine, both my personal and work experiences gets a boost. It's a win-win situation.
So yeah, BYOD is awesome and definitely something I'd get excited for.
Sounds like your company never had major issues with cyber attacks. Allowing unmanaged hosts into the environment is a cybersec nightmare, even if just through web apps. Also citrix is a worse experience than any underpowered work laptop.
Sounds like you don't know about the current security philosophy, which is "zero trust". You don't trust anything, not even managed hosts. We operate under the assumption that we are already comprised and that there are already bad actors with access to the network, and therefore the risk is managed accordingly, using modern security controls such as conditional access, RBAC, PIM/JEA, PAWs, AIP etc. Not to mention the use of SIEM and XDR solutions to detect and contain evolving threats. We even have a 24x7 security team who manually monitor all our environments.
Also, our BYOD laptops connect via the Internet to cloud-based services, so it's not like they're connecting to some traditional LAN/VPN/domain etc.
Our zero trust security model isn't something we whipped up out of thin air btw, it was established in consultation with Microsoft and another security agency which specialises in this stuff. Many major organisations around the world now follow a zero trust model, so it's been battle tested. We are a MSP who provide IT services to several organisations - so there are many regulations we need to adhere to, and compulsory external audits are done every year to maintain our certification status. Never had any major issues in any of our audits.
Also citrix is a worse experience than any underpowered work laptop.
Not really. Have you even used modern versions of Citrix Workspace recently? It works just fine. If you had a poor experience then it's likely that whoever provisioned your VMs underspecced them, or your VM host was underspecced or misconfigured, or you were probably accessing some ancient version of Citrix.
Also, it's not like I'm in Citrix all the time, we only use it when accessing certain traditional apps or isolated environments. Most of our stuff, at least the stuff I mainly work with, is cloud-based.
BYD is selling where I live now in Southeast Asia. And I've also been to China many times and been inside BYD vehicles.
While they are economically built, the quality seems pretty good considering the price point. They're being used as taxis all over Shenzhen and many other cities where I'm sure they're racking up hundreds of millions of kilometers of fleet mileage, potentially giving them a lot of data to work with.
Honestly I think the Chinese are going to be very strong contenders against American built electric vehicles, which is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.
I love how they take a more conservative approach than Tesla with their technology. If I had freedom of choice I'd be buying a BYD over a Tesla because they are like the Toyota of electric vehicles. They focus more on the vehicle being a vehicle than all the high tech bloat.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Chinese company sold a record number of cars last year, including 525,409 battery electric vehicles (BEVs) in the three-month period to December 31, according to a stock exchange filing.
The rapid growth of BYD, which is backed by Warren Buffett, is a symbol of China’s rising EV industry.
Miao Wei, former minister of China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, said at a car forum in November that the government’s NEV penetration target of 50% by 2035 is likely to be achieved by 2025 or 2026 at the latest, according to state media.
China’s leading role in the global industry is also thanks to its market scale, cheap labor and supply chain dominance, according to analysts.
Its first mover advantage and government support through infrastructure investment and subsidies have made it easy for Chinese EV makers to expand domestically and internationally, they said.
To offset the slowing domestic market, Chinese car makers have been seeking growth outside the mainland by expanding in Europe, Australia and Southeast Asia.
The original article contains 656 words, the summary contains 167 words. Saved 75%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Great so when can I buy one in the US?
You can buy one today as long as it is a class 5 truck, or a bus.
I cant wait for this and to watch the American automakers lose market share for choosing to make large expensive monsters for the profit margin instead of what people need. Its gonna be hilarious hearing them blame everyone but themselves.
If I had the money ready id buy BYD consumer offering the first day they're here because I just know some reactionary tax or tarrif bullshit will be passed as soon as the automakers lobby hard enough for it.
I started seeing them in Sydney, like 3 months ago but suddenly they're everywhere and a store opened down the road from me.
And every time I see the name my brain pronounces BYD as "buy" with a "d" on the end and makes a stupid pun about purchasing one.
Is "buying D" illegal in Sydney?
Where do they sell it? I've never heard of this?
As far as I know, you can't buy a BYD in the US, which is a shame. At $12,000 I'd much rather own a new BYD Seagul than a used ICE car with its breakage prone overly complicated and polluting engineering. https://youtu.be/anoliCXXKIA/&t=119
At least I can still buy an ebike!
You can't buy BYD passenger cars in the US yet. BYD makes commercial vehicles in California.
They sell them in the UK now. I've seen a few on the road. There are a couple of dozen showrooms in the country now, and my utility (electricity and gas) supplier is offering them on finance (amongst a few other options).
So yeah, they're out there.
On the other hand China has more people than US and Europe and US combined. Yes, that US twice plus Europe and then some.
This is a good development. More competition is always good.
I distinctly recall a recent video from Serpentza showing swathes of BYD electric cars "recalled" or "abandoned", don't remember which, mostly due to battery concerns. Can't look it up right now
BYD recalled 53k cars in 2022. The pictures you're talking about of abandoned EVs in China are mostly from ride-sharing companies that went bankrupt in the mid-2010s (after purchasing the cars with generous subsidies that ended in 2019).
Yeah I'm sure the YouTuber who does exclusively "China bad" videos for cults knows what he's talking about