No. I won’t do this again. I’m not sitting around wringing my hands and staring at these God awful empty headlines for another few years. Grow a fucking pair, MSNBC. “Sparks concerns” my lily white ass. This isn’t a motherfucking spectator sport.
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Here's his twitter. Someone call him a coward for me. I don't have an account on that site and I'm not making one.
No, they fucking don't spark concerns. Literally nobody who supports Trump or any swing voters give a shit about his emails. Democrats and the media need to stop acting like anyone cares about "muh norms" and call out the fascist power grabs. But, if they start talking about real issues, they might have to talk about their own shortcomings, and we can't have that.
Democrats are starting to talk about things like rule by Billionaires much more than they historically ever have. Not just bernie starting to take it seriously
House Minority Leader Jeffries
Republicans would rather cut taxes for billionaire donors than fund research for children with cancer.
That is why our country is on the brink of a government shutdown that will crash the economy, hurt working class Americans and likely be the longest in history.
Welcome back to the MAGA swamp.
https://bsky.app/profile/hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social/post/3ldqkdrwg3c2j
(Dems ended up being able to restore funding for pediatric cancer research with some senate dem maneuvering)
Or we can look at some of the people running for DNC chair
Ben Wikler, Wisconsin Dem Party Chair who's a front runner for DNC chair
Last time I checked, no one voted for a President Musk.
A multibillionaire's stranglehold over Donald Trump and the entire GOP should infuriate all of us.
Millions of people voted to bring down the cost of eggs—not for an oligarch to try shutting down our government.
https://bsky.app/profile/benwikler.bsky.social/post/3ldroxio5cs2a
Ken Martin, Minnesota DFL Chair, also a front runner for DNC chair
An unelected billionaire and a yet-to-be inaugurated president who says he’s a billionaire are taking away child cancer research money for the holidays.
https://bsky.app/profile/kenmartin.bsky.social/post/3ldp366lch22y
James Skoufis, NY 42nd District State Senator, running for DNC chair
Billions were spent last cycle, much of it lit on fire via glossy mailers and TV ads that only made some DC consultants rich.
Those dollars should go to our state/local parties and coalition building, folks who do hard work that win us elections yet receive crumbs from the DNC.
https://xcancel.com/JamesSkoufis/status/1869530119452479962#m
~~Speaker~~ House Minority Leader Jeffries
Is the last person to talk about billionaires and other things that shouldn't exist:
Ben Wikler, Wisconsin Dem Party Chair who's a front runner for DNC chair
Another hypocrite pretending to be against oligarchy while being backed by oligarchs
Ken Martin, Minnesota DFL Chair, also a front runner for DNC chair
This guy looks promising, but there's little to no donor information readily available on him, so grounds for cautious optimism at best.
James Skoufis, NY 42nd District State Senator
Again little to no public donor disclosure, which is very ominous for a state Senator from NY of all states..
TL;DR: Dem leadership consists mainly of hypocrites who are as beholden to billionaires as their (much worse in almost all other aspects) fascist colleagues.
Re Ken Martin: he's a shrewd political operator. He's been chair in MN for a long time, and made incremental progress and won elections. I'd describe him as a progressive who is not willing to let perfect get in the way of good.
Source: was well connected with the MN DFL about 10yrs ago.
shrewd political operator
Could mean he knows how to get things done. Could mean that he has little to no ideological consistency. Usually a mixture of both but mostly the latter.
incremental progress
Usually 1 step forward when already 5 behind the rest of the world. Incrementalists are usually willing to trade 3 steps back to fascists negotiating in bad faith in the name of holy bipartisanship.
a progressive who is not willing to let perfect get in the way of good.
You mean a Neoliberal incrementalist trying to pretend to be a progressive while continuing to work for billionaires and their corporations against the working class?
Source: was well connected
I bet you were!
Sounds like you're describing a carbon copy of Jeffries. There's already way too many of those kind of politicians in Dem leadership. That's why they lost every part of government to fascists.
I'd say MN has mostly done better than most states under his pragmatic leadership. Whether you can say it's his doing or not, well sure, it's just a piece of the puzzle.
But your criticism is also reasonable. The Dems haven't actually learned anything about winning elections since they gave up new deal politics.
And yeah, MN is a small place. I'm not gonna dox myself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The language one uses matters in the long run even from hypocrites. It shifts national conversations and can sometimes force your hand. Eventually the people who fully believe the messaging will take over the party. It's part of how the Republicans have let their own party shift so far to the right
In terms of Wilker, I hadn't read about that from him but looked into it some more as the article linked was brief. Found some others with more insight in to what he thinks about that. It very much still sounds like he thinks the system is broken, but doesn't want to lose harder by not fully playing in it
We have to be a party that can legislate based on our values. If that means a bunch of donors jump ship, so be it.
[...]
Wikler acknowledges he’s part of a broken political system and still believes, as he did at 17, that money should not determine who can run for office. “I think we should have public financing of elections.” But, he adds, “I don’t believe in unilateral disarmament.”
https://isthmus.com/news/cover-story/teaching-an-old-party-new-tricks/
Democrats and the media need to stop acting like anyone cares about "muh norms"
That's the thing, though: the Dem leadership and the billionaire owned establishment media care about 3 things above all else.
In ascending order of priority: norms, institutions, maximizing their own wealth and influence.
They pretend to care about truth, justice, fairness, dismantling the orphan crushing machine, and all that, but that's mostly just a performance to gaslight the poors.
You're 100% right about everything else, though.
LOCK HIM UP
(Well probably not this timeline, instead we get Weimar 1933 CK Class Restructuring Scenario.)
I thought we established the precedent that emails don't matter
only for republicans
The correct phrasing is "Butt Tizzy Males".