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Except they have billions in stolen art and could liquidate it at any point. If not trillions, actually.
Nobody knows exactly what Vatican has but Porphyry Basin in the Vatican Museum is estimated to be worth 2$ billion alone (it was commissioned by Emperor Nero).
Vatican could literally end the world hunger with their treasure hoard.
Their art collection is so massive, containing such crazy rare items, many cannot have a price tag as they are literally priceless. It's impossible to calculate its value due to the extreme rarity, or because anything like it to compare it's value to is also in the Vatican collection.
When they sell 1 priceless art item, they can sustain themselves for a year. They have hundreds of thousands of those items, if not millions.
Saying the Vatican goes bankrupt sounds like "Elon Musk struggles to pay for his groceries".
Sounds to me their massive stream of money is declining and they want to scare people into giving them more money.
Though if the idea that high value art is actually a money laundering/moving scheme is true, this might not be the case. The idea is that no one or few people actually want to spend millions on art but pretend they do as a front to spend millions on something else.
They could probably save some money by reducing the "cover up pedophile priests" item in their budget.
The collection of the Vatican doesn't consist of weird modern art paintings but of historical important pieces. Private art collections of Roman emperors, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Rodin, etc. Not some fake money laundering value because some Chinese tech CEO spent way too much money on it but true historic value backed by scientific research and historic manuscripts, which hold value on their own. Any museum would sell children's organs to be able to get their hands on a single piece. I've been to the Vatican myself, I've seen one single wing of many, completely filled with the most impressive art pieces, stacked together like they don't have enough room to store everything properly. The British museum is innocent compared to the amount of stolen priceless art pieces the Vatican has.
And they they are on the brink of bankruptcy, because "people aren't giving them enough money anymore"... "Because of the current pope". I guess for the first time we have a pope doing something right.
A corporation which thrives on one source of income alone: gifts. And now the infinite money stream is declining. What was it, Christians say when bad shit happens... Ah yes, I remember, "God works in mysterious ways". Or translated for people who do not believe in imaginary friends and fairytales: shut up and deal with it.
Vatican could literally end the world hunger with their treasure hoard.
No they couldn’t. They’d end up making a bunch of warlords into billionaires while the regular people would go on starving. The only way to end world hunger is grassroots economic development and education (especially for women). You can’t do that by dumping billions of dollars into those countries. The problem is very tricky and the work is long and arduous.
It’s not getting to the people who need it because [CHOMP] it’s being intercepted by warlords!
he is right though. Don't know why making fun of him was required to make an ass of yourself.
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Why would they want to end world hunger? What could motivate them to do so?
Hmm...
I'm going to need a really, /really/ small violin.
Sell your fucking chair, you clown.
Pope Francis got rid of that already, some 10 years ago.
I haven't seen him on that chair since, but I'm sure it's somewhere collecting dust.
Not sitting on it =/= getting rid of it
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Thoughts and prayers!
Just pray. If your God is the creator of the universe, it's pretty likely he can handle the situation once you let him know.
Dont forget the thoughts.
Aww geez, our 1500 year old grift isn’t working as well as it used to, sad!
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Gods plan
Thoughts and prayers.
Well it's a good thing they have all that priceless art they can sell...
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Can all the nations they stole artifacts and trinkets from get them back when they declare bankruptcy? /s
Why is there a sarcasm? It's a legit question.
It's probably asked sarcastically because they know it would never happen.
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Bullshit. They own more land than damn near any other entity on the planet. The whole celibacy thing was so the priest could not take the church owning and give them to non-church kids.
Hurting for money? Sell some land. Then pay for the abuse lawsuits some more.
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What little concessions they made to progressives was far too little too late while former popes sided with child abusers and rapists.
The joke is that Francis was still too far left for the big money Opus Dei Catholics in The United States and Europe.
They weren't friendly enough to the rapists. That's why the donations are drying up
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Good for them, I guess?
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
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Anyone think this is some independently verified fact?
THEY’RE CLAIMING THIS TO GET OUT OF PAYING ALL THE LAWSUITS they get because of all the r4pe & 4bus3 of little children
Time to start selling Indulgences again.
Don't just leave those laying around, something will fi-- aww damnit, too late...
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I am an agnostic so my opinion might not be worth anything to Christians (or Catholics specifically), but I don't really see the point in organized church structures. If you believe in God, support his ideals, why do you need to go to church anyway, or at least why would you want your local church support some big hierarchy (often with controversial opinions or actions) for your money?
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Nice
Good
Perhaps they should sell off some of the tons and tons of gold stuff they have.
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Good
Of course people are blaming him being too accepting of trans people, his view of "let them survive but they're sinners unwelcome to the eucharist" is unfortunately far too progressive for some.
Fortunately the church of Jesus of Nazareth will prioritize profit over peace and love
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