I think she's guilty (you can't be making threats like that on the heels of someone actually committing an act of violence) but even that is too much time. IDEK if she deserves jail time at all. I'd rather see her get a fine and maybe a month or two of community service.
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trump stole 500 million dollars from the state of ny... rapists spend less than a decade
this is a warning to poor people
Reminds me of the case way back in the day with someone who pirated music getting insane fines and how it was juxtaposed with the relatively small settlement an airline had to pay when its negligence actually killed people.
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I hope this case gets some attention too. This is some ginned up bullshit. We can’t let them stomp us into silence.
I’m not celebrating a murder, this is some fucked up shit in many dimensions and I would prefer a different timeline.
But remember we are not children who need to bow our heads and take our scolding.
For-profit insurance companies are liable for the deaths they cause. Full stop.
How’s that for moral clarity?
She should not be charged in my opinion. It wasn’t a credible threat.
What the shootings has done is shown how many Americans are fed up with the current system.
You’re seeing stories from democrat and republicans.
I don’t condone the violence at all but he may have sparked a medical revolution in our country.
Saying (paraphrased) "you're next" is not a threat. It's an observation.
She made no threat.
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This is some ginned up bullshit.
The "you're next" after referencing a high profile murder is what actually did it.
Like, that's a credible threat. 15 years is fucking insane, and context is going to matter a lot. Did she just get denied cancer treatment for her 2 year old? Or told it's not insurance's fault doctors won't prescribe opioids? Or any of a million things in between.
That's why we have trials, to find out all that stuff. And if it's a jury trial I feel juries would be sympathetic.
The 100k is the real bullshit, but not owning guns doesn't mean much. It's insanely easy to buy a gun without a background check thru private seller loopholes.
But our bond system is insane, because the it causes judges to inflate the amount 10x. If you can afford to put it up, you get it all back later. A bondsman you pay 10%, they put up 90%, and they get the whole 100% back. Your 10% is their profit. If a bondsman thinks that's a good risk, why does the court consistently over estimate the risk?
Bonds only exist so poor people are punished more than rich people.
credible
able to be believed; convincing
Did anyone really think she was coming after them after that? No. She got heated on the phone and said something she shouldn't have.
It's not nothing. What she did was wrong, and it's reasonable for it to be a crime. We don't want to always have to investigate or deal with constant threats. However, she was neither credible nor specific, which are two major criteria. (Keep that in mind when you're posting here, by the way.) She committed a crime, but not one that should be very serious.
The way they've framed her is obscene.
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Thanks for the insight on the typical terms of bonds. Good info.
So eyes peeled on this one too I guess. They are making an example of her, I mean the judge plainly said so. We can’t let them get away with these excessive charges.
I didn’t kill anyone and I never will. But I will be damned if I let this moment fade into the next news cycle.
As a society, we are having the conversation about for-profit healthcare NOW!
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She would have never been able to be charged before the patriot act. No weapons, no capacity to act on them, vague and unspecific. Its crazy how our freedoms have been eroded and how many folks seem to think thats just fine and dandy.
I’ll never understand how people are ok with limiting other people’s freedom based on “what if”.
Indeed, when George unleashed that shit, Patriot Act, I told everyone we are one step closer to forming the SS or NKVD. Once again, we have Mango Mussolini with his merry band of racist thugs.
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I saw someone else say this, but I hope they start rounding up the incels on Twitter saying “your body, my choice” as credible rape threats if what this woman said is going to be litigated with such fervor.
Rape doesn’t take money from the rich and is therefore not a crime.
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Two wrongs don’t make a right. She could have said DDD without “you people are next.”
Having said that, if we’re really judging people, and corporations are people, why isn’t the denial of health care seen as manslaughter? 70 people pass every day due to the lack of medical care in America. We have worse outcomes, shorter average life than other civilized countries.
When is a corporation sued for murder & sent to jail? I know it sounds crazy, but that’s the point. These systems aren’t making sense. They lack humanity. This is a bad, morally bankrupt system. Older Americans loves their Medicare: that’s socialism.
I’m so sick of this shit.
why isn’t the denial of health care seen as manslaughter?
Because they make money when they deny something.
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She's a scapegoat. They arrested her to make a public example of her. Fuck those bastards, set her free.
When a woman calls the cops because her abusive SO threatened to kill her, they can't do anything about it.
On the other hand when women complain about threats from stalkers the police do nothing. You might as well delete the word justice from this criminal justice system.
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Meanwhile customer service agents have been hearing much worse than this for decades, actual direct threats not vague comments, and no one ever gave a shit before.
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Of course not, but they're going to make an example out of her to deter the rest of the proles.
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This reminds me of Minority Report. Arrested by the pre-crime unit.
Guilty without the crime actually being committed.
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We should erect a giant bronze statue of Luigi. Put it in a road right near UHC's headquarters in Minnesota. Make them all drive past it each and every day on the way to work.
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She absolutely does not deserve that. Isn't America the home of free speech? I guess not for the plebs!
Where is her free speech?
Free speech is for nazis, as far as I can tell
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It's called wrong thinking from the book 1984
She was released and all charges dropped. This was a silly farce by the judge and prosecutors from the jump
I don't think that's right. She's been released on bond to house arrest; the charges still stand.
Prosecutors throw the book at people, sentences get reduced by dropping things, aclu better get on this and keep her from getting a stupid plea deal, and fight for free speech
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No, but they are going to throw the book at potential copycats to deincentivise others. First of many, I'm sure.
Free slave for the state of Florida. I mean, they might let her go in a few months, but slam that 15 years jail stay bill right on her. You really effed up on the "land of the free" over there.
That "when they came for the ..." had already happened. Years ago. Think on that. SL
Oh, I missed it it's f****** Florida. Anybody living in that state is taking their own life in their hands. No she does not deserve to have the book thrown at her but her likelihood of that happening is very high.
If Boston’s home is later found to have a bunch of disguises, a 3D-printed gun and a manifesto, I will, of course, eat my words and any hats that are available.
Those items will magically appear if needed for them to make a case.
Of course she doesn't, but the ruling class needs to make an example of someone - they're not about to let us peasants get away with defying them.