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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The disconnect between public perception and personal humanity has been striking, with some commentary bordering on dehumanizing.

Yeah it's a lot easier to humanize someone who makes six figures than someone who makes seven. Why don't you start there?

Or maybe just make it so the CEO doesn't make 700x more than the lowest paid worker. You don't even have to reduce the CEO pay to do it! Just lift up those other people.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (6 children)

That's actually been studied. Turns out that about 40 is the tipping point for most people, as in CEO earnings 40 times more than the lowest paid workers. Up to that point people think they boss earns it, above that resentment starts to grow.

They're at 700. Yeah, that's dangerous. People are very sensitive about relative earning for work. Fairness is just hard wired into all animals and it's dangerous to ignore this, although humans react a bit later and that gives a false sense if security for those at the top.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

What infuriates me is that there are those that make 6 figures as being able to potentially make 7. And sure, some of them might.

But are they brain surgeons that have such a specialized life saving surgery that by the nature of economics pushes the value of their skill exceptionally high? Nope.

Hell, I make 6, and I'll admit, I have a lot more than a lot of people. I'm 2-3x the median of my area. I can't buy a house. I own a 7 year old RAV4. If I was better managing my money and not having to pay out my ass for my ex wife, sure, things would be better.

It's not at all difficult to find how just a little less income makes life much harder. It is VERY difficult to see how someone who has so much money can be remotely ok with people having it harder than them.

Those pulling in 7 figures without highly valuable skills should be dehumanized. Because they have abandoned what has helped humans survive at all. Each other.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Awww poor billionaires. So sad.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (9 children)

US income distribution is on the same level as fucking Russia. Bring back the tax brackets from the 1950's and 60's.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

"...

We are quoting anonymously those who did respond, to allow them the freedom to give us their most candid answers. These have been edited for length and clarity. Some have previously been reported by Fortune.

**Personal responses to the killing **

— “The disconnect between public perception and personal humanity has been striking, with some commentary bordering on dehumanizing. This highlights the critical need to humanize leadership and address the pressures faced in high-visibility roles.”

— “My challenge is keeping employees engaged. How do you maintain a sense of purpose if you think your customers hate you?”

— “I have to wonder if the demonization of corporate America and the wealthy over the last four years planted a mind virus in the assassin’s mind.”

— “If you walk by the place where it happened, it’s business as usual, which gives me some perspective. This was a random killing by a mentally ill person. Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about.”

..."

Wow. 'demonization', 'need to humanize leadership'... Are these human people that were interviewed? Did these human persons speak anyone outside their immediate circle in the last three decades? I can hardly believe that, this is so out of touch that these folk may have never been touched by anything in their lives. I wasn't prepared for this speedrun worldrecord to definitively prove total lack of empathy and understanding.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you walk by the place where it happened, it’s business as usual, which gives me some perspective. This was a random killing by a mentally ill person. Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about

I hope this guy gets it next. How fucking out of touch can you be that you dismiss this as "a mentally ill person doing mentally ill things"? What a fucking loser!

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (20 children)

This was at the end of the article Forbes presented me with:

Do you have what it takes to make it to the C-suite? Learn how Fortune 500 CEOs overcame surprising obstacles on the road to the corner office...

I don't want to make it to the C-suite. That sounds awful. I want to help specific people solve problems they have helping other people.

Do other people think like this? Like they want a corner office and a big car? Am I that fucking abnormal that this sounds like a death sentence to me?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago

“When I was growing up, CEOs didn’t make millions more than everyone else in the company. I think we have to reflect on why there’s so much anger and do something about it.”, said someone who will do absolutely nothing about it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago

its not a new reality dudes. you just did not know.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its the same reality as before except they realize how close they are to the edge separating the game where they abuse us from the part where they don't get to play the game.

All of us play the game daily...go to work, do some good stuff, come home, eat, sleep. The good stuff. Why do we get so little and they get so much?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The biggest fear is that the hatred expressed in social media posts about Thompson—and glorification of 26-year-old shooting suspect Luigi Mangione—will lead to copycat attacks, says Bill George, a former Medtronic CEO and executive fellow at Harvard Business School. “People are in disbelief that they would be making this kid into a hero,” he told Fortune.

Fortune reached out to dozens of CEOs this week to get a sense of how they’re reacting to this moment. The majority declined to comment. We are quoting anonymously those who did respond, to allow them the freedom to give us their most candid answers. These have been edited for length and clarity. Some have previously been reported by Fortune.

— “The disconnect between public perception and personal humanity has been striking, with some commentary bordering on dehumanizing. This highlights the critical need to humanize leadership and address the pressures faced in high-visibility roles.”

— “When I was growing up, CEOs didn’t make millions more than everyone else in the company. I think we have to reflect on why there’s so much anger and do something about it.”

— “I think we’re living through very seriously dangerous times where we’re normalizing antisocial behavior and normalizing violence on both extremes—on the far right, and on the far left. We basically moved, over the last 10 to 12 years, to a world that I don’t recognize. It’s very scary … I do understand that there’s enormous amounts of injustice and that we need to bring everybody along, and there’s a lot of things that we do, but I don’t think revolution is the answer to solving problems.” (a former CEO)

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"critical need to humanise leadership"

What about humanising your customer base? Humanising employees?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah, I mean the quotes I pulled were the most self-aware wolves nonsense in the article, but the rest were basically either "we need more security" or "oh no the poors are onto us".

I've never met a CEO or member of the ultra-wealthy that wasn't either a sociopath, narcissist, or completely detached from reality. I've only met about a dozen of those kinds of folks but they all had that same vibe.

Are you surprised?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago

The biggest fear is that the hatred expressed in social media posts about Thompson—and glorification of 26-year-old shooting suspect Luigi Mangione—will lead to copycat attacks

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

People are in disbelief that they would be making this kid into a hero

Last time I checked, he was a full grown 26 year old man who made his own decisions, not a "kid."

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

— “You’re never stopping anyone who wants to get to you.”

All my life I've tried to make sure people don't want to kill me and I'm still alive, it seems like a winning strategy.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

This is how disconnected they are from the rest of us.

Truly living in their ivory towers.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

“I have to wonder if the demonization of corporate America and the wealthy over the last four years planted a mind virus in the assassin’s mind.”

Plot twist: the virus was actually the billionaires

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bill George, a former Medtronic CEO and executive fellow at Harvard Business School. “People are in disbelief that they would be making this kid into a hero,” he told Fortune.

Which "people"? Who are "they" in this context?

Actually most of those quotes read as completely disconnected from normal people's reality...

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