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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If the universe/big bang didn’t exist, would numbers conceptually still exist? i.e zero is still zero regardless of whether any matter exists, right?

If there is no form of existence in which math doesn’t exist, then everything ultimately exists necessarily. It has to exist, as a result of being derived from the infinity of math.

Everything is just math, and it therefore has no option but to exist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_universe_hypothesis

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

We wiki never know. My take, which is not a thing one can prove or disprove, is that something that don't actually exist needed something to exist in order to love. My answer is love.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (10 children)

There is no dark without light. No silence without sound. No nothing without something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

These concepts are each defined in relation to something else. Without that something else these concepts are meaningless, absurd, and do not exist.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People say shit like this, but it's just not true. If darkness is the absence of light, then it's dark so long as there isn't light. If you observe a universe where there are no photons, it'd be dark everywhere. (it'd also not have the EM force, but let's put that aside for now.) You can have darkness without light, but if you aren't aware of light, then you simply wouldn't have a word for darkness; you are confusing the conceptualization of thing with the thing itself. In my circles, we refer to this fallacy as confusing the map and the territory.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Imagine a flat universe without up and down and then you might arrive closer to the truth.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Stuff exists so it can ask questions like "why is there stuff?"

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