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Summary

Donald Trump and Republicans are falsely framing his 2024 election win as a historic “landslide” and sweeping mandate, despite the data showing otherwise.

Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6%, the smallest margin for a winning president since 1968, and his 307 electoral votes rank low in U.S. history.

Crucial Senate and House gains were limited, with Republicans relying on gerrymandering for their narrow House majority.

This exaggeration of victory serves to justify potential power expansions, but the facts debunk claims of an unprecedented or overwhelming mandate.

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[–] [email protected] 204 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (27 children)

It’s time to nip that lie in the bud

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of nipping MAGA lies in the bud every day. It's been the better part of a decade of this bullshit already... I fucking hate that my countrymen chose this for us for the next four years. Fuck every Trump voter, but a much bigger fuck you goes out to all the jackasses that stayed home on the 5th. You're complicit, and I don't give a shit why you think fascism is "okay" as long as you got to punish the Democratic Party for your grievances.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly, until media reframes this from distraction politics to a call to action none of this matters. Wake me up when we have a functioning government again.

I'll be focusing locally on building mutual aid networks and contributing as much as I can to local policy and governance.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I think the bigger message is that our information environment is totally screwed.

The eye-opener for me was watching our local news station interview college students coo and rave over how "strong" he was and repeat (apparently not) obvious misinformation.

It wasn't about apathy, not really... He just won an influencer war. And now the CEO of Twitter is basically president..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait until the idiots graduate and look for a job. The Orange Bag of Shit holds the record for US unemployment and he has a very good chance of breaking it again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, and president would have been screwed over during covid, even if they had "contained" it (which, looking at China, seems highly unlikely).

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sick and tired of anywhere near half of the voting public choosing him.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter. He won the presidency. He has demonstrated his entire life that he will just do whatever he wants and dare the world to stop him. (Narrator: They haven't.) Now he also has near-complete criminal immunity once he's inaugurated. He's already stacking up appointees who are going to follow his orders.

"B-b-but Senate confirmation --" Shut the fuck up. Whoever he wants to be in charge of departments is going to be in charge of departments. Don't appoint anyone else, throw "Acting" in front of the title, done and done. What is anyone going to do about it? Fucking nothing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Of course it matters. It doesn't matter to trump but the public is not trump

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If it doesn’t matter enough for anyone to do anything about it, it doesn’t matter at all.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe if we correct the Republicans they'll listen. Yeah, that'll work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Republicans are trying to gaslight us by calling Trump's win a landslide. The point isn't to correct them; it's to make sure we don't believe the lies they tell us.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe the media themselves shouldn't have been running around talking about the absolutely massive and devastating defeat the Democrats suffered the day after the election... Maybe they should have waited for all the results?

Nahhh... Clicks clicks clicks! It's all that matters! Money money money!

All corporate media:

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That really doesn't make me feel that much better about it, but I guess we're mostly trying to find the corn in the shit on this one, so thanks?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They already have power. They don't need a justification for expansion they'll just do it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yes and no. All power, ultimately, depends on compliance. Even autocracies. There would not have been a "divine right of kings" if kings did not have a pressing need to assure people of their right to hold power.

The "mandate" narrative is aimed at convincing everyone that their objections are in the minority. That even if they stand up and say something, they'll simply be the odd one out.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

Who cares he still fucking won. We are fucked regardless.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's not going to fly when the entire country saw him sweep the swing states. That's part of the fuckiness of the EC, he only won by a tiny margin but visually state after state went red on the TV.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you seen the crowd in his 2016 inauguration? It was huuuge. Or how he fit 80,000 people in a 20,000 capacity venue.

People should know by now that he exaggerate everything including the size of his mushroom penis.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

This is one of the reasons I hate talking in abstracts. I hear people talking about landslides, but what does that mean numerically? If there was a vote with a pool of 10 people and a candidate got 6 of those is that a landslide? Is 9/10 a landslide?

Some people talk "landslide" but without knowing what that means, it makes it hard to have a conversation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That's pedantic. They won the trifecta of government. The definition of landslide is academic at this point.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

the point is to wake us up to that our resistance coalitions needn't be small

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

It might only be pedantic/academic if the term was only being used in an educational setting. Instead, it's bandied about nearly every day since the election, and it does need to stop.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait, did a major outlet just use "lie" in its headline?

I'm impressed. Even for an op-ed.

Anyway, this cannot be repeated enough. I'm already sick of people trying to say it's "historic", it's a "landslide", etc....give me a break.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6%, the smallest margin for a winning president since 1968…

What about Trump and Bush 2 both losing the popular vote yet winning the presidency?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's ok for liberals to criticize trump, but revealing the sham of "democracy" is a few steps too far.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

When I was younger I thought the saying was, "nip it in the butt"

I dunno it always made sense to me.

Anywho carry on

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Half of Lemmy seems to believe that Trump won by a landslide. Remember a comment upvoted like crazy yesterday talking about how hard he won.

I mean I get it, the fact that he won by any amount is horrifying but nuance exists. I'm glad to see this article attempting to clear it up

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In states where he won, it was either a blood-red wave, or barely past 50%.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, yea? What are the other options?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Too late. It's that whole thing where it takes ten times the effort to undo misinformation than to introduce it (or however that goes). This narrative is here to stay. Those who try to counter it will just be in the role of the "Well Ackchyually" guy in the conversation

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