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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm just tired of being lectured in video games. Sorry if that makes me anti woke.

Spiderman 2, veilguard were both worse off because of poorly done DEI. BG3 was fantastic and created characters that weren't talking about pronouns like I'm a 5 year old. Sorry not sorry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Spiderman 2... worse off because of poorly done DEI

Played it, loved it, no fucking clue what you're talking about

The deaf girl?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

Woke isn't being progressive. It's being progressive to an extent beyond any sort of logic, virtue signaling constantly, and then calling anyone who disagrees with you morally or intellectually inferior.

In entertainment, that often results in some really annoying elements that I think we can all acknowledge are a thing after almost a decade of this:

  • There is a minority protagonist. Said protagonist is disproportionately a straight coded conventionally attractive white women in their 20s.
  • The only flaw the protagonist will have is not being confident enough
  • There is then a minority side character. Said character will disproportionately be a black woman obviously less attractive than the protagonist, or a upper middle class gay fuckboi.
  • If there is not one of these two things, a minority side character will be shoehorned in somewhere. The character will feel visibly out of place, and no explanation will be given. For example, they'll do some random black character in a fantasy setting that's clearly based off Scotland in the 1200s.
  • Important character goes on a monologue that feels like a political PSA
  • The IP's understanding of progressive politics and social justice is roughly equivalent to Tumblr circa 2013.
  • Absolutely terrible writing. Even if you swapped all the "woke" elements for generic entertainment elements, the IP would still be terrible.
  • Likewise, the IP itself is often put together in an extremely lazy and mediocre way. If said "woke" content was not there, it would be universally panned for its low quality.
  • Amazing reviews. All aspects of the IP get 10/10 from the "professional" critics. All the reviews are similar enough that the critics either collaborated or read off the press release.
  • The critics care more about the social justice aspect than the game itself.
  • You get the sense both the creators and the critics of the IP not only don't consume this type of IP in their spare time, but actively resent people who do.
  • Constant fucking gaslighting. Anyone who doesn't like this ultimately mediocre IP is either morally and intellectually inferior. This usually comes in the form of accusations of being a bigot, a Nazi, or a Trump supporter.
  • Bigots, Nazis, and Trump supporters will then try to recruit people who are pissed about the gaslighting.
  • At some point the IP itself fades into the background, and it just becomes yet another culture war battleground.

I think there's a reason Star Wars gets more shit for being woke than Spiderverse, or that Arcane hasn't become a culture war battleground in the same way She-Hulk did. The reason being those shows are actually good, and most people are happy to watch good shows.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I get what you're saying, but...

For example, they'll do some random black character in a fantasy setting that's clearly based off Scotland in the 1200s.

While I don't know about 1200s Scotland specifically, the notion that black people didn't exist in old Europe is a false narrative by racists who seem to believe immigration was invented around the 1700s (like, I've seen them claim black people don't fit into Ancient Greece, which is definitely wrong.)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

People are mad about the weirdest thing.

When I was fully a gamer(tm), I used to get mad when people said that video games would make people to murderers. Now a bunch of the people, who probably used to get mad with me, are afraid that somehow video games makes you gay. Like dude, you know it is bs. You said it is bs.

"But it is about how the narrative suffers from the woke shit" yup totally true which is why the political right hated the harry Potter game for jk rolling's wokeness with Dumbledore's homosexuality and her rewriting of history by lying about what her notes would mean. Because they "hate" when authors don't respect the story but go for clout. (For those, who don't know, once jk said in an interview that a David star meant that the character is a wizard, later she claimed the same David star meant the character was a Jew) oh wait, they didn't boycott the game but hyped it up? Surely not because jk is a terf. No way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Not that there would be any game that meets their "unwokeness" purity standards.

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