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Automotive research firm finds that Tesla has higher frequency of deadly accidents than any other car brand

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As an ev driver, some people shouldn't be allowed this much acceleration 0-60 time, me included.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've got a "shitbox" VW Golf - the twin charger version, it's only around 118kw. It's not quick by any stretch of the imagination even with the bolt-on mods mine has so far.

I'd not like to imagine the levels of trouble I'd find myself in owning even a midrange EV. Being able to give an EV a ham sandwich and hit 100kph in ~5 seconds or less is absurd.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Not to mention the weight. Those premium vehicles with long range stats are very heavy. That's what makes them so terrifying to me.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But all they did was market their pretty good lane-assist and automated braking as a magic butler that lets you nap in the driver's seat.

How could this happen??

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It really shouldn't be legal to call it "full self driving" unless you can take a nap in the back seat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It's actually not. Tesla just won't care until the feds sue them in court for it.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (24 children)

Which is odd, because most electric vehicles (including some models of the Tesla) have better crash ratings due to having a crumple zone where the engine would be. Assuming that’s still true, there must be another factor that tips the balance towards deadly accidents. Some thoughts:

  • They are heavy cars. Maybe it’s safer for the passengers but more deadly for the other vehicle.
  • Maybe Tesla drivers are more irresponsible than other car owners.
  • Maybe the torque and acceleration is too high, causing people to lose control more often.
  • Maybe something that doesn’t get rated in the crash ratings causes deaths, eg. electric locks which are unable to open when power is lost, a likely scenario during collisions.
  • Maybe the FSD features are causing more collisions to happen.
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

"A vehicle’s size, weight, and height certainly play a part in its ability to protect passengers in a crash,” said Brauer. “But the biggest contributor to occupant safety is avoiding a crash, and the biggest factor in crash avoidance is driver behavior. A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving.”

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Maybe Tesla drivers are more irresponsible than other car owners.

That was going to be my suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (11 children)

More irresponsible than Nissan Altima or Dodge Ram owners isn't easy

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When this was posted last week, I mentioned that it was odd that all the most deadliest models on the list were all low production cars, meaning there might be something wonky with their methodology.

There was a similar "study" done a year or so ago where they simply looked at car insurance applications and used people's accident history and whatever vehicle they were trying to insure at the time to generate a list of which models had the "most accidents" in an incredibly flawed manor (Pontiac and Oldsmobile were among the safest even though neither company exists anymore).

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Or, hear me out, maybe they are just shit because so many corners have been cut in manufacturing that tesla cars should be perfect spheres by now.

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