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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Kyiv would like to end the war with Russia next year through "diplomatic means" as both countries prepare for President-elect Donald Trump's return to the White House.

In an interview with the Ukrainian media outlet Suspilne, Zelenskyy said he is certain that the war will end "sooner" than it otherwise would have once Mr. Trump becomes president.

The prospect of Trump returning to power in the United States next year has raised questions about the future of the conflict, as the Republican has been critical of U.S. military aid to Kyiv.

Zelenskyy said that Ukraine "must do everything so that this war ends next year, ends through diplomatic means."

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 36 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Very hopeful,

"We have to understand what the Russians want," Zelenskyy said.

That would mean peace instead of Ukraine becoming a new South Korea. Ukraine led peace negotiations can bring China in to outbid blackrock for the ruins in the country, and perhaps Chinese peacekeepers instead of nazi EU supporters. The Musk plan that was floated is a non-starter with Russia. EU trade deal finally happening is something Zelensky can try for, but Ukraine's purpose was always suicide to the last Ukrainian, and everything dangled as a carrot disappears when they let go of that course.

EU/US have to step up financial reconstruction offers instead of weaponized nazification to be relevant in the peace.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 26 minutes ago

EU/US have to step up financial reconstruction offers

The offers are likely to be predatory IMF/World Bank loans leading to even more neoliberal/neocolonial privatization & austerity.

The US hasn’t given Ukraine a blessed thing: they’ve all been lend-leases that will take the Ukrainian people generations to pay off.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

TIL that bickering over and then eventually sending your left over equipment and other miscellaneous trash to a country under a genocidal invasion is "weaponized nazification".

Most of what the EU sends is financial reconstruction aid. People here are too pussy to send any real help. You're making the EU sound a lot more competent by paining us as some shadow entity manipulation Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 31 minutes ago

a country under a genocidal invasion

These claims of genocide by Russia are projection by Western propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What he likely means "ending the war by diplomatic means" is not talking or negotiating with Russia. No, that would be worst heresy imaginable. When he has previously talked about the use of diplomacy to find peace, what he really means is for Ukraine redouble it's efforts to beg for more money and weapons, but also get US and Europe to put more pressure on countries like China and India to ditch Putin and support Ukraine instead. Zelensky has talked along these lines before. Make his position seem reasonable to those who who want Ukraine to seek settlement, when it really isn't any different from "Zelensky's peace plan" that can be summed up in demand Russia's unconditional surrender as a precondition to any kind of dialogue.

I fear it's this kinda crazy talk that we are looking at. Zelensky or his inner circle just bring themselves to talk to the Russians, nor can they talk about things like giving up even places like Crimea. They just can't give an inch and we all know what happens to the reeds that don't bend with wind.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago

They absolutely can. Easily. They made a peace deal shortly after war started, but Zelensky accepted weapons bribe promises to keep going instead. As they are nearing the last Ukrainian, and the bribes will dry up, something close to original deal will happen instead. Zelensky is dead either way, but peace lets him flee somewhere, and claim to have done the right thing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Zelenskyy literally cannot advocate for negotiated peace. The Right wing nationalist elements of Ukraine's coalition will effectively murder him if that becomes his position. It remains to be seen what will happen to him when he's forced into it by the reality of the war and the waning of international support by his patron states.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's likely just going to flee to US or UK in the end.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

He has a mega mansion in Egypt in his mom's name thanks to this war.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

He could've fled long ago if he wanted instead of facing the risk and staying. I respect him for that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

You are saying this as if he is Yahya Sinwar fighting on the front line and dying a warrior's death.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He has to stay till the last moment if he wants to keep political power. He's not in any personal danger.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Ukraine suspended all national/local elections, because he can't possibly win anything again. Fleeing while claiming to be a hero is certain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

He doesn't care about what anybody in Ukraine things, the key part is to make sure he can be the next Guaido for the US. If he flees too soon then there's going to be a new government formed without him and he becomes irrelevant. So, he's going to wait till there's a full on collapse to flee and claim to be government in exile.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Is this Democracy?

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