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Brittany Patterson, 41, was shocked to face a criminal charge for alleged reckless conduct when her unsupervised 10-year-old son walked less than a mile from their home.

Although authorities offered to drop the charge if she agreed to always supervise her children, Patterson refuses to sign, insisting she did nothing wrong and will fight the charge, which could lead to up to a year in jail.

Her lawyer argues that parents should have discretion over their children’s whereabouts, questioning if constant GPS tracking is now expected. Patterson was released on $500 bail.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The initial reports of this made it sound much worse, now it seems so tame this charge borders on ludicrous. I walked about 2 miles to my bus stop as a kid with no side walk and it was ABSOLUTELY unsafe, but we didn't have a choice as the roads were no outlet and too narrow for a bus to get into my neighborhood. I never saw a kid get hit, but I knew of multiple adults that were hit by a car with a few fatalities. I still think this Georgia story sounds dumb, so either we're being deprived of details or the police are being ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago

Yikes.

In 1997; I was walking about 2 miles to and from school. Unsupervised. I had a house key on my neck and was a latchkey kid in third grade. I obediently walked to and from school directly from home; meeting the crossing guard a half mile from school twice a day; as I had to cross a major 4 lane divided highway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

This really feels insane, even for this day and age. Which makes me think we’re probably not getting the entire story.

If true, it’s downright silly. Back in the 80’s, we were out of the house unsupervised for hours. Parents just about encouraged you take candy from friendly strangers or to hitch a ride in their cool white van with ‘Free Puppies’ written on it. As long as you made it home without broken bones, they didn’t care. Ask anyone from my generation.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The elementary school closest to us is about a mile away. Kids in my neighborhood walk to school.

What the hell is wrong with letting a kid walk a mile away??

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago

Probably somebody got elected on a "protect the children" and did this to prove it. It's not like it effects the jackass responsible for it. It's performance child protection and it's pretty common.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Happened in the woke liberal capital of.. * checks notes *

... Georgia?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

~~Small town~~ rural Georgia, no less!

I crossed out "small town" because Mineral Bluff is too small to even count as incorporated. Literally all that's there, in terms of businesses, is a gas station, a Dollar General, and whatever the Hell this is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

👯‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

This is the size of village where everyone knows everyone. It makes no sense other than a squabble.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They don't have villages in the US for some reason. Only small towns, towns and cities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Unless you are using a specific definition I'm not familiar with this isn't true. There are definitely places officially reffered to as village rather than city or town.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

It certainly isn't common.

Most of the "small towns" would be villages everywhere else, but it feels like it's shameful in the US. Maybe some places decided to roll with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

That used to be true in the area. My family has lived there for generations. It has seen a lot of change and now it’s full of tourists and cabin rentals. It used to be very remote and disconnected from Atlanta but a governor from the area built a nice highway to get people to the mountains and it isn’t all locals now. A lot of people retire there and begin demanding changes to laws. You may be right about a squabble though, mountain towns have family fights that go on for decades.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

That's what happens when you have a general store and a Dollar general comes in next door. They sell anything you can't get at the Dollar general store and then advertising space.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How we have lost perspective. When I was that age I was forced to walk to school, a distance of about 1.5 miles.

Forced, mind you, because if you were considered "too close" to the school you were not eligible to ride the bus. Other than the land directly adjoining the school grounds, the roads I had to use also did not have sidewalks. The number of children killed, maimed, or injured by this during the years I attended that school were, to my knowledge... zero.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Shit dude I remember walking further than that, at that age...crossing a busy 4-lane (state) highway (without a crosswalk or a sidewalk)...to buy pogs and rent video games.

That was only...30 years ago. Holy shit that was 30 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Can I offer you a cane in these trying times?

laughs in lower back pain

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Nah man, I'm good, I can walk just as far now to the nearest dispensary. And there's sidewalks and crosswalks. And some cars that'll stop themselves if they're about to hit a pedestrian.

[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A mile is nothing ... what the actual fuck? I used to be gone for hours god knows where.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

I had a bike. I can assure you, I went MILES away. At 10, I was probably riding 1-5 miles to friends houses or to neighborhoods for selling whatever nonsense my scouts program was selling.

Just be home when the street lights come on!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

When I grew up, we were "free range kids".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My family had a healthy idea of limits, closer to the "free range" philosophy, before such a term was required.

Our neighbors across the street, however, were the prototype for helicopter parents.

While my sibling and I gained confidence and navigational skills by biking around our confusing neighborhood before the days of GPS, the neighbor's kids weren't allowed to go down the street unsupervised. My siblings and I stood alone on the corner bus stop, but the neighbor's mom sat in her car and only released her kids when the bus had arrived.

At the time, my parents made fun of theirs for holding such a tight leash. We also pitied the kids because they panicked about being "lost" when my siblings brought them on a walk around the block.

But now I see kids sitting in cars at bus stops as the norm. And of course, stories like the above article go to show that the helicopter style has won (for the time being.) The people who were raised to fear everything outside their front yard are now parents themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

My mom has done the sit in car while waiting for the bus to come thing before and its super annoying. Mind you the bus stop was like 60m away from the house. It actually took longer to drive because of the time it took to take the car out of the garage and get in but my mother insisted. For the past three years I have just stopped listening to my parents and just leave the house without saying anything. Its to ask for forgiveness than permission. I have been biking to neigboring cities and they don't even realize I left. I have also been able to force them to let me bike to school because I have work right after my morning classes and biking is the fastest way to get to work.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Or, as they were called then, kids. This modern stranger danger and always track your kids is insane, everyone be living like the sky is falling every ten seconds.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Keeping a population in a state of perpetual fear is by design. It's the first and an essential step to being able to manipulate people into voting against their own interests

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

It also serves to keep people isolated, and prevents kids from forming lasting relationships that can later be used to discuss and compare issues and organize.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They asked me to put my hands behind my back and all that stuff, and I realized what was going on.

Because she was too dangerous to be cuffed normally, or not cuffed at all?

Als I hate this doubly for the kid. Your mom getting arrested for your slightest sign of independence will fuck you up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

Als I hate this doubly for the kid. Your mom getting arrested for your slightest sign of independence will fuck you up.

This so much. So much bullshit is being done to "protect children" and it actually hurts them.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago

That poor kid. I already was upset thinking about them having to see Mom get arrested. I didn't even consider the fact that the youngest is probably blaming himself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Cuffed normally is behind your back. You only get cuffs in front with some prisoner transfers where you also have leg shackles and a belt. Cops routinely have a pleasant and peaceful interaction turn violent and it isn't worth risking harm to anybody by not equally applying a handcuff and search policy.

Often it is department policy that anyone arrested is handcuffed. Some stipulate that anyone who goes in the back of a squad car gets handcuffed as part of detaining someone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Bootlicking bastard. How dare you defend the cops for handcuffing this poor mother whose crime is apparently letting her kid have a childhood? "Peaceful interactions turn violent"? Pizza delivery drivers are more likely to have violent and fatal interactions with the public than cops, should they handcuff us "just in case" before handing us our order? God you bootlickers disgust me. Not ONE of your positions is upheld by facts. It's all "feelings", feelings like "the cop felt unsafe so he unloaded 2 full clips into a black kid playing tag". It's all a big tower of fascist feelings.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Town of 400? Was she a flight risk. Could they not have asked her to come by and remand herself? Do keep in mind this is a non-violent crime. This was for show, to make a point or simply to be cruel.

The police here are probably just two of the 400 people with no oversight.

When the deputy was complaining about her child wandering downtown, It paints a very different picture if there's only a general store a Dollar general and a gas station.

The only thing I can imagine if the police aren't being dick heads, is that the kid was getting into trouble. Maybe he was stealing or being perceived as stealing. Because he was being homeschooled maybe he was down there and they were pissed off because he was truant but can't really be truant.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

Wikipedia says the village is not even that big and only had a population of 223 in 2020. It is basically two highways coming together with a couple other streets.

The officers likely were not one of the people in town. A town like that is too small to have dedicated police. The country sheriff's department has people patrol and respond to specific areas of the county.

I doubt the kid was stealing. They picked him up by the cemetery. Not much to steal there. He was probably just dicking around like pretty much every 11 year old in a small town does because there is not shit to do.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago

I'm confused... shouldn't this be happening in one of those liberal nanny states where big government is supposed to be all up in your business?

Oh, right... those people need to tell you how to raise YOUR kids, but don't you dare tell them how to raise theirs...

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

America: where young people are coddled until they're 18 then it's either sell your body, sell your soul, or both multiple times over just to survive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The coddling is a fairly recent thing. People born in the late 90s is who it started with, about the time that 24hr ~~propaganda~~ news channels became a thing.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

Or get sold into sexual slavery, and if you get pregnant by your rapist, fuck you, you're having his baby.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

Stay classy, Georgia

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pfft when i was that little i would wind up in a different city/state unbeknownst to my parents.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's actually really not good lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I got a 10-speed bike when I was about 10. A friend and I rode 15 miles to my uncle's house to visit my cousin. Got home that evening and told my mom and she was like "That's a bit too far away. Anyway let's have supper."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They could have lived in a city that straddles a state boundary. Crossing to a different city/state could be done measured a matter of meters/yards.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At the Four Corners, they could be in Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, or Utah in a single step.

More realistically, if you were in NYC, you could hop a train and be in CT, NJ, or PA for a day trip. Or even further, if you started early enough.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I was thinking something like this where you can be TOTALLY INSIDE ONE SMALL BUILDING and be in two different cities/states.

The left side of gas station (QuickTrip) is Kansas City, Kansas. The right side of the gas station is Kansas City, Missouri. So cross state lines going from the chip aisle to the soda refrigerators.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Google Maps boundaries aren't the most accurate. You can look up property records for KCMO and see it's almost entirely inside KCMO (though it does span multiple parcels).

What's more interesting is that while the building is in KCMO, the address of the gas pump canopy is in KCK. I'm sure they all just use the address of the entire business in KCMO for all legal purposes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

Someone below said they charge Kansas taxes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

How the hell does this work employment wise? Are employees working in Kansas or Missouri and which state collects taxes? Probably not as big of an issue there, but in my state we have things like income tax while our neighbors don't, which would make situations like this incredibly confusing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

Just a guess, the mailing address probably specifies which state's rules its under. Police enforcement might be interesting though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, would pass through Misery for my lunch breaks to get to this Quick-Trip. Too bad they had Kansas taxes. Cigarettes were hella high.