No, no! Dogshit sometimes fertilizes and promotes growth. Microsoft teams is poison.
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Genuinely the single worst messaging app I've ever used. Worse than Skype, which is crazy because Microsoft owns that too.
and Skype was worse than MSN Messenger. I'm still upset they killed off the better product.
I have a Jabra Headset (now retired) that literally has a MS Teams logo on the side and is market as "Teams compatible". As you might have guessed, Teams is the only VC app were I regularly have to switch betwen inputs to get the headset to work during a call.
Every. Fucking. Meeting. Why can't teams just default to my system default.
I don’t care. I’ll take anything that maintains staff meetings from home. Before COVID they were 90% in person.
Yup. It’s got a stupid amount of bloat for what it is used for, but it’s aggressively “okay.”
Will take it everyday of the week instead of taking meetings in person.
Yup, it does exactly what I want it to do: link scheduled meetings to my Outlook calendar (corp requirement) and let me join from a notification box. We have Slack for everything else.
It's not great, but it's certainly okay. Call quality is fine, the chat is crappy but gets the job done (supports links, files, and plain text, which is enough), and audio/camera settings are surprisingly decent. It works well for our use-case, which is scheduled meetings. Impromptu (i.e. useful) meetings happen over Slack.
"aggressively okay" is the best description i've ever head of MS teams
Microsoft spent billions acquiring Skype only for us to be left with Teams
Am I the only one that prefers it to Slack?
Probably.
Teams is better for scheduled meetings, but Slack is better for literally everything else.
Weird
It's like a graveyard of companies that Microsoft has acquired over the years. Sharing files is one brand name (Sharepoint if i recall), making video calls is another name, planned events is another - every function has a brand name to it, which made me feel like these were the last remaining trace of long-absorbed companies.
But that's just my recollection, i haven't touched Teams since Covid
Isn’t Teams just Microsoft’s attempt to reinvent Skype for Business as a Slack clone? I didn’t think they’d acquired it (other than acquiring Skype and fucking that up, too).
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We user / have used Slack, Zoom, Meet/Gchat and a VERY brief trial of teams.
We have O365 AND Google Workspaces so we get teams and meet for free.
Zoom is the best to host a large meeting with a split presence. It's the best at dealing with variably poor connections. It shines on being able to share any specific app and sound control.
Meet is the best for small, low-friction meetings. However, it is hampered by its inability to share anything but browser tabs with sound, poor camera control, and poor user display.
Slack is a fantastic, too-flexible chat system with organizational issues. When it works, it works pretty well. However, it has intermittent video and mic problems on many systems. It is not good on poor connections and occasionally not good on fast connections.
Teams is bloated, many systems run it poorly, and there is an unacceptable amount of server-imposed downtime/issues.
I've personally never had an issue with Slack, mic/video included. My connection has always been solid, though. Never tried on a shit connection.
You can share windows and entire screen with Meet.
not with sound
I chalk most of the shit that makes teams horrible, is closely related to electron and their whole web app as a desktop app bullshit.
Buckle up, because they're doing that same enshittification to outlook next. It's already begun. There's a "new" Outlook. FML.
Next you'll tell me the sky is blue.
If we were on Teams right now I may not have received this snarky message.
Thank you! Finally someone has the guts to say this publicly
Eh, I thought that was already common knowledge. We use it at work because the Outlook integration works correctly 99% of the time and call quality is largely okay. I hate it as a text messenger or impromptu call tool, but we have Slack for that anyway.
Lol... It is indeed common knowledge... I was just joking.
Using Teams as a freelancer with multiple clients who roll their own user management is a PITA.
I had to sign into multiple browsers in private mode
Ah, they're all crap.
Came to Teams from Slack, some upsides, some downsides. It's a corporate communication tool, I don't use it because I think it's beautiful and elegant, I use it because I get paid money to use it.
The biggest mistake was to make it a "hub" for all sorts of other uses in my opinion. It shouldn't be browser based, it should be native and just focus on chatting and calls, that's it. It could be so much faster and intuitive.
The only thing it does better than Slack: A list of all my chats, most recent at the top, without any disappearing or grouped in some weird way. Slack annoys me.
I got slack for my college course, I left the group. I have no fucking idea what is going on on that app it was insanity. Seemed like 12 different groups of the same people and sometimes you got notifications sometimes you did not.
It was just a really bad UI and UX.
I’m annoyed you still can’t do annotations with Teams.
Unpopular opinion: I actually like MS Teams
Look, I know this might get downvoted, but Teams is... actually fine? Yeah, it's not perfect, but it just works. The best part is that everyone and their grandma knows how to use it because it's the corporate standard around here.
I can't tell you how much time I've saved not having to do the whole "can you hear me? let me try reconnecting... oh wait try updating your browser" dance that happens with other platforms. My company recently switched to Google Meet and honestly? It's been a downgrade. Teams might not be the coolest kid on the block, but at least I'm not spending half my meetings troubleshooting audio and video issues.
With how much goddamn investor money they got it should be as close to perfect as possible, IMHO. We've had like 2 decades to perfect interacting online, I don't think its a technical challenge anymore.
Yeah, I have a similar experience, but it certainly lacks in features compared to other messengers. For example:
- chat - formatting is terrible, Slack is way better here
- groups - haven't bothered figuring them out, in Slack making a channel or group message is super natural
- resources - Teams eats RAM like crazy, Slack seems to be a bit more respectful
- recent chats/messages - I can never find what I'm looking for, with Slack it's simple
I like the integration w/ Outlook because we're basically forced to use it at work, but Slack is way better for almost everything that doesn't interact directly w/ Outlook. So if it's not a scheduled meeting, I and my team much prefer Slack.
For me "it just works" doesn't ring true. Generally at least once a day, I join a call and it won't let me unmute, and I have to restart Teams.
Scrolling through history is obnoxiously slow.
The activity feed is mostly useless, spammed with stuff that isn't important and it's the only place that vaguely tries to keep track of 'Teams' conversations.
In my company, I've been added to about 70 Teams and it's pretty much impossible to interact with them, so as a result no one does, they all just start ad-hoc chats, since that's the only thing that vaguely gets managed in a way people can follow.
When going cross-organization, it's a crap shoot whether or not we can use text, voice, and screen share/remote control. I know this is generally due to obnoxious company 'security' policies and other solutions have it, but it is a frustration. One recent call with a particularly screwed up company had us on two different meeting platforms at once as well as on an old fashioned conference call, because text was only allowed on one platform, screen share on another, and no audio was allowed on either (despite both supporting all three).
Sure, Teams suffers, in part, because like all corporate tools it connects you to generally dysfunctional work communities. However it broadly does have it's own annoyances.
I hate teams because it consistently doesn't just work
missed notifications, screensharing
i have little use of it and it constantly breaks