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  • 🤔 Apple has shared why the power button on the Mac Mini M4 is hidden
  • 🤏 It’s mainly because of the Mac Mini’s compact size
  • 🤷‍♂️ But also because users apparently never use the power button on a Mac
  • 👉 Apple also says the button can be accessed easily, even though it’s underneath
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Or the most obvious answer of all: Macs have a power button on the keyboard

Such a stupid thing to write about. Must be a really slow news day if they are writing about the location of the power button.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Mac Mini doesn’t come with a keyboard. So unless you’ve owned an iMac or bought a keyboard separately, you won’t have that convenience.

That being said, I haven’t touched the power button on my Mac Mini since I got mine on the 8th.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

As someone in IT, I loathe non-standard the fuck is the power button designs.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The power button is one of the biggest non stories this year.

Who doesn’t just put their computers to sleep 99% of the time?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My work computer yes, but I always shutdown my home computer when I am done with it.

With NVMe SSDs, computers boot fast enough that sleep mode doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (12 children)

With current hardware the power draw at sleep is negligible, so power off doesn’t matter.

You can spin this argument both ways. And sleep is more convenient, so that’s what most people choose.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not for you, but it's an issue if you're using Mac Minis as unattended service devices that are hard mounted and will occasionally need to be reset by hand (think kiosks and AV systems in conference room).

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

There are tons of listing for cheap Mac’s on marketplace now. Even Mac studios. The mini M4 is a very good deal. Super happy with mine.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

So Apple is basically like:

We are lazy
We know what you want better than you
You are wrong

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn’t that just the Apple philosophy?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

They are like, “this computer uses basically no power while asleep and everyone just puts their computers to sleep anyway and this machine weighs 1.5lbs. It’s not a big deal.”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Damn Lemmy, when did you all get so damn salty? In an Apple community no less.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Where have you been?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Linux nerds crawl out of the woodwork to remind us at all times that it's "better."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m trying to be a Linux nerd, but my god is there so much research to do to figure out how to get it to work the same way my Mac does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

100%. I'm typing this comment on a M4 Mini that the original post is about, and it's just so nice. And things work. And I don't have to worry about it. I can move my mouse to the edge of the screen and connects to my iPad and I can control my iPad that way. It's cool! And I didn't have to read some ancient texts to figure it out.

Linux is not bad, and people who use it aren't bad.

But that doesn't mean they aren't kinda annoying to hear all the time, saying "it's so easy" when you have spent hours trying to figure out why something that feels like it should be simple doesn't work. Or they say, "Oh, yeah you just have to run [some command in the terminal no one would ever guess] to make [your issue] work."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

i'm becoming a linux nerd and this power button thing would be fine for me bc ive discovered how good suspend is and never power off my desktop anymore anyway, just spend then bump the keyboard when i want it back.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

This is “you’re holding it wrong” all over again

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I don’t think it’s lazy, Button placement seems neutral in that regard. No this is most likely form over function. They do this all the time. Remember the charge cable for the mouse? They don’t want the port seen, and they didn’t want their equipment to be seen plugged in. But people are willing to buy form over function for clout. What are you going to do?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I think the charge port on the mouse is still really silly but the button kinda makes sense to me. Its right there on the mainboard so its simple to manufacture and compact. Its a lot less likely to be accidentally pressed. These options are in trade off for it being a little bit harder to get to in the everyday. I also think apple expects a lot of these to be used as a HTPC and just never turn it off

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, you become a trillion dollar company by being lazy and not knowing what people want!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Total lazy design a power button is just a small button and some wires it could be anywhere

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Completely playing devils advocate here but by having it on the bottom isint it right there on the same plane of the main board therefore making it easier to manufacture by simply having smt components vs having manual wires routed elsewhere/long plastic stick power button running the entire height of the machine internally. Its may be lazy but could it also not be efficient?

Imo the way to resolve probably like 80% of the complaints for this would be just have the edge of the machine sit just high enough above whatever surface it is on by way of feet or a thicker base. Just enough be able to put a finger under there and press it. Not very unlike monitors and TVs have done for ages at this point

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“Honestly, most people almost never use the power button a Mac,” one executive remarked.

Ford: Most people never open their hood so we put the lever under the back seat.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

In the same train of thought, BMW and Tesla execs need to find courage and remove turn signals.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Seems like a non issue to me- the usb c placement on the mouse is way more annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Mac Minis are primarily used as home or small business servers. They get rebooted, but rarely turned off. It makes sense now that I know the button is accessible without lifting the Mac Mini.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I wonder if power buttons are a Windows thing? I recently switched to Linux on my desktop and have a MacBook as well. On the MacBook i'm not sure if i've ever used the power button - it just goes to sleep & I wake it up.

And on Linux the suspend is so good I don't power off at all, but on Windows I always did so needed the power button all the time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I've said it before on this; with this location, it's much harder to accidently shut off your computer. The number of times I've accidently shut off my work laptop just by holding down the dock to plug in or unplug a cable is absurd...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

🥰so cuuute!

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