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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"They're all without shirts and they have a stick with a white cloth on it. The soldier feels threatened and opens fire. He declares that they're terrorists. They (the Israeli forces) open fire. Two (hostages) are killed immediately," the official told reporters in a phone briefing.

The third hostage was wounded and retreated into a nearby building where he called for help in Hebrew, the official said.

"Immediately the battalion commander issues a ceasefire order, but again there's another burst of fire towards the third figure and he also dies," the official said. "This was against our rules of engagement," he added.

But remember, not a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The IDF's policy seems to be, "Kill them all. Let Yahweh sort them out."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I think you’re technically correct in this instance.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Probably standard IDF practice considering they've been doing this to Palestinian civilians since they entered Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I don't see why the practice would be any different apart from someone having to account for the deaths since they were Israeli citizens and they happened before too many witnesses in this instance.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

"they have a stick with a white cloth on it. The soldier feels threatened"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So many pieces of news just establish that the IDF is full of pussies. "He's waving a white flag.... WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!! TAKE HIM OUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Two things that IDF and US law enforcement share is both being scared 24/7, and constantly going out of their way to do everything possible to paint civilians as active enemy combatants/terrorists. Yet they always like to say shit like "if you haven't done anything wrong, then you have nothing to fear" to us. Also love to do everything to give off the air of being such "badasses protecting the masses". Fuck all of them, and they will certainly have much to fear once the masses start to actually come for them. Not very leftist of me to say, but if they are finally taken I can only hope that they are not given fast or painless ends. As they had their chance to stand with the masses and chose to be lapdogs for zionists/fascists/the oppressors of the working classes. Reactionaries are pussies and take out their rage on everyone they feel is weaker than they are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

But seriously, I do imagine they've been fed enough propaganda about "the enemy" willing to do anything that naked people with a white flag can still look like Hamas trying to trick them. Fucked up

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

In a war situation like that, how possibly can one appear less threatening than being unarmed, mostly unclothed with a flag of surrender?

The IDF literally killed the people they were purportedly trying to save...

If this is how they treat hostages on their side, how can I believe that they aren't indiscriminately killing civilians?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Their only mistake here was shooting the guy who spoke Hebrew. Everything else is just Tuesday for the IDF.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

"They're all without shirts and they have a stick with a white cloth on it. The soldier feels threatened and opens fire. He declares that they're terrorists. They (the Israeli forces) open fire. Two (hostages) are killed immediately," the official told reporters in a phone briefing.

As if this wasn't ridiculous enough, it gets better

"Immediately the battalion commander issues a ceasefire order, but again there's another burst of fire towards the third figure and he also dies," the official said. "This was against our rules of engagement," he added.

So, to summarize: unarmed civilians waving a white flag were categorized as terrorists and two of them get executed immediately. The battalion commander then directly orders the soldiers to stop firing but those orders are being disobeyed and the last of the group is executed anyway.

That is not feeling "threatened". That is bloodlust.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

These are the people our world leaders support. Make it extremely uncomfortable for them to continue doing so, or they'll get inspired.