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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

wouldnt matter if they did learn from it if the crap trump campaigned on goes through and he becomes a "king" in this country

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago

This is unironically true, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The funniest part of this is the idea that there will be an opposition party in anything but a token way after this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago (34 children)
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 13 hours ago (11 children)

They ran Harris thinking she would win based on her demographics. The DNC needs to learn that not everyone wants a black/LGBTQ/woman/etc candidate that just runs on their race/gender/sexuality.

They want someone that's competent that will campaign on policies that will make their lives better. The DNC has moved so far away from the working class that the RNC, the party of wealthy creeps, has them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

running token candidates beholden to them is very shady but brilliant strategy by the superpacs :

if they loose: blame it on sexism, racism bigotry to divert the attention from reforms in dnc for progressive leadership. and even if they pretend to be sad about it, the megarich elites and donors get taxcuts and endless price gouging from republicans.

if they win: token candidate passes some token laws which gets either blocked in senate or so poorly implemented that they actually end up giving billions to megacorps for no visible benefit to people. case in point: https://www.atr.org/kamalas-broadband-bust-42-billion-996-days-zero-homes-connected/

[–] [email protected] 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They had no platform other than fear mongering about Trump.

The difference between Harris and Obama was that while Obama was biracial that wasn't the focus of his campaign, his platform was, and he articulated it well. That's the real lesson to take away from Obama's success at the polls not let's run a black person and hope we win.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

Obama also competed against a deep field of qualified candidates in 2008. He went into the general with momentum of a popular mandate and then won in a landslide.

He would of done nearly as good if he was a white man.

On the flip side, when the republicans lost with Romney in 2012 they did a whole lot of soul searching (rather than blaming the electorate and moving closer to the center to court mythical ‘moderates’ which is the ongoing failed strategy of the democrats), and in 2016 they had an extremely competitive primary where trump came out on top with a mandate as popular with the base as Obama in 2008.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

They ran Harris because she was the only viable option when it was clear that Biden was not. They did not run Harris thinking she would win at all, they ran her out of desperation because the incumbent was flatlining. It was not a choice, and it certainly was not one based on demographics. It was a “Hail Mary” and it failed as it was likely to do from the outset, and everyone who was paying attention knew that, yet had no choice but to hope for the best.

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