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[–] [email protected] 26 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (16 children)

What??? We literally saw democracy play out. You can't even use the excuse that he lost the popular vote, he won every type of democratic way we have.

You know what wasn't democracy? Installing candidates into primaries over democratically popular candidates. Hillary in 2016, Biden in 2020 and Kamala in 2024. In every single one of these primaries, they did everything they could to shut down anyone popular who showed any sign of having a backbone, even though they killed democracy as it happened.

What we saw was a backlash to a stifling of democracy. Democracy won last night.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I can't tell you how much faith I've lost in the average person in America, especially compared to how... ok, I guess, the last election went and how tight, or possibly over this one is.

I can't fathom how fucking stupid anyone would have to be to elect this orange piece of shit that has been upping the dangerous rhetoric constantly. America is broken and it isn't worth fixing, especially not for the morons that somehow get him elected again. I just hope that I can get to a point in my career that I can move elsewhere, maybe Ireland or New Zealand or something, fuck.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

For real. The rest of the world needs to get their shit together and cripple the US. Cease all trades immediately, end all alliances with the US. The US has the largest military in the world, and now the facists have the reins entirely. They have the oval office, the have the house, they have the Senate and they have the supreme court. The entire world is going to suffer because of this election.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

US politics have gone to dangerous direction for decades. Orange freak is only a symptom. US is gonna become Russia level cleptocracy and when climate crysis hits fully, world will be more separated and chaotic than ever.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, this recent election shows how far gone my country really is. But unfortunately it's also the golden opportunity facists have been working towards for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

There may not be any need for that.

The United States, China, etc. all have trade policies that are fundamentally unsustainable and result in persistent trade imbalances.

This causes all sorts of poor economic outcomes for large sectors of those countries. For example, an anaemic household sector in China and over investments in housing, huge private and public sector deficits in the United States, etc.

In the free market world of Adam Smith and comparative advantage, persistent trade imbalances should not exist.

Over the medium to long term, imports are meant to pay for exports.

If there are persistent trade imbalances, it means there is persistent under consumption (China) or over consumption (United States).

Note: This is not just limited to these countries.

At some point, there is going to be an economic crisis because it can't continue forever.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

(in spirit since I am not American)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Part of that joke though is that they're both exactly the same which is of course a false premise.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

Well I was posting it more to the point of the I am sure wave of people saying "Well I voted for the Dems" is fast approaching.

[–] [email protected] 231 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (58 children)

Plain and simple... She was a woman, and a black person - There will be months of tap dancing and "deep" analysis, but we're just an ugly, atrophied, broken, racist and patriarchal nation, like deep down in our DNA. We were able to elect Obama, yes - he is half white, and a man (those weren't the loud messages as they attacked him, but Pennsylvania gramma knew those things quietly when she pulled the lever for him). It's not satisfying, but it's just the plain truth here. We're closer to getting over race than we are over sex.

Plenty of deliberate work has been done, mostly by republicans, to keep America stupid, poor and in untreated pain, yes... But we're also just trash on the whole. We raise trash and we vote for trash. We just aren't smarter than social algorithms, TV soap opera narratives, costumes and makeup. "The pretend business man is white, old, wears a tie and has a gold watch. He feels like how daddy felt when I was little, and when things are bad, daddy fixed them the way I remember it."

Video game trolls, people who failed the cop application physical and triple DUI wine moms are America. No further explanation or analysis needed.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 17 hours ago (11 children)

Obama was a unique situation in that he was both an incredibly charismatic JFK-style figure and ran after the Republicans had managed to both start a very unpopular war and destroy the world economy.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 17 hours ago

this is what a terminal case of neoliberalism looks like, kids

[–] [email protected] 75 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Also say goodbye to internet freedom of speech, if even a small portion of Project 2025 comes into play. Anti-pornography activism sounds nice on paper, until you realize everyone has a different definition of pornography, and the people that want to ban porn the most have a rather interesting take on what constitutes as porn and what doesn't...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

“Anti-pornography” specifically means “anti-LGBT” to them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago

They will extend it to mean anything outside of what their version of Christianity allows, which will include a lot of straight people

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Anti-pornography activism sounds nice on paper

I am absolutely ashamed I'm forced to vote along side you by First Past the Post voting. Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

How does anti-pornography sound good to you? If you are about to give some religious nonsense, please don't bother.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 19 hours ago

It absolutely does not sound nice on paper.

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