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While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys' opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Too bad they don't sell them in the US. I would buy one immediately.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Amazing.

I'm sick of buying a new phone every three years because the battery is dead or the processor is slow, nothing can be replaced without it being wildly expensive and now it's a paperweight.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (12 children)

To be fair, I don't think the Fairphone will help much with outdated processors. You can't upgrade the processor inside, and it comes with a relatively slow processor from day one.

This phone is not for people that need performance; it's a very basic phone for people that value an ethical supply chain and repairability.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That and supporting grapheneos would do it for me

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (18 children)

The Fairphone 4 supports /e/.

It seems graphene is limiting itself to Pixel devices. The developer is also mostly a one man show, so I don't think he has the capacity to support many devices. He's probably just busy keeping up with Pixel devices as-is.

What I would like to know is, how do /e/ and GrapheneOS compare.

Can't really find info on that.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

For me, the problem was that they don't support the right bands for US carriers.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 10 months ago (33 children)

I really wish another viable mobile OS would come out. I don’t want android and apple iOS is wearing thin on me.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Perhaps next year will be the year of the Linux Phone. Alas, the same problems that plague the Linux desktop plague the phone. Lack of software.

It’s also very difficult to move out of the Apple ecosystem once everything just works the way you think it should. 

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm quite interested in the developments on waydroid that would allow the use of Android apps on a Linux phone.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Linux desktop is far more mature and there isn't even a year for the Linux desktop yet. Linux mobile will probably never take off within our lifetime lmao.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 10 months ago (117 children)

And I give it a 0/10 on having a 3.5mm connector

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (7 children)

The number of comment that says " I would buy one, but" is amazing !

What this company is doing is what every company should do, from laptop to tablet. As well as tractors. Dot being able to repair what you buy is fundamentally flawed!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (9 children)

TBF it's not available in the USA, and a lot of us are in the USA...plus even if we got one, a lot of the bands wouldn't work, so it's not like you'd have a good connection with it.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago

If my FP4 dies in the next year, I will fix it. Because iFixit gave it 10/10.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (7 children)

As soon as my FP 3 dies they will hopefully have a new phone with a headphone jack. In 10 years or so.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

Don't forget to let them know that at the various consumer surveys they send regularly. But I wouldn't hold my breath...

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I would love one of it wasn't so big. I'm sick of big phones.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (6 children)

This. I just ordered an S23, just because it's pretty much the smallest phone you can get (apart from the zenfone, which has a worse update policy).

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I would buy one in a heartbeat if it was smaller.... My S22 barely fits in my pants pocket, and barely usable with one hand.

Still waiting for compact phones to return...RIP sony xperia

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (21 children)

I want the headphone jack back.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

I would buy one if they shipped globally and it was about 100-150€ cheaper. The specs are not worth 700€. I would also need official GrapheneOS support as well.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 10 months ago

The specs are not worth 700€

That's what those specs are worth if everyone who's part of it gets compensated for their work appropriately.

Imagine the price of a Galaxy S23 if Samsung actually was fair to everyone involved.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

this is great! i have a friend who needs a new phone and is ordering one, and i'm gonna get my hands on it to help him out and eventually flashing LineageOS on it if it comes out

i just wish they complied with the android stack security features so that it would be compatible with GrapheneOS. it would be the perfect phone

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For real, we need more phones that are compatible with GrapheneOS. Going to Google for THE De-googled phone is nothing shy of extremely ironic and borderline hypocritical.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I really like the idea of these phones and I’d really buy one of my employer wasn’t providing me a phone and allowing me to use it for my private stuff.

Of course, it might be expensive for the hardware, but just look at the price of a non repairable and non ethical iPhone.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

I wouldn't say the Fairphone 5 wins prizes for looks or functionality but it does show that it is entirely possible to make a phone with a replaceable battery and repairable components in a modern form factor. If they, a small boutique phone maker can do it, then there is absolutely no excuse that Apple, Samsung, Oppo etc. cannot do the same.

One failing of Fairphone is you cannot buy the mainboard (the core component) from their store. All the other components yes, but not the mainboard. The core is not just the CPU, flash but also some other things like microphone are on it. It would also be nice if people could order all the parts that make up a Fairphone 5 and assemble one entirely from scratch.

I've also read through their ethics / green reports in the past, and while it talks it up with "supply chain engagement" reports and so on, most of their components are still made to order by Chinese OEMs so how far does it go down the chain in reality.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I want a fucking headphone jack, thanks. Also 3 full size USB ports, a physical keyboard and a inch-thick battery, because fuck you.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Still no 3.5mm jack, still no dice for me.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I like the Fairphone 5 but €40 for a case is unforgivable.

I'm feeling like it's a gouge because they know not many (if any) 3rd party cases exist.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you look at other recyclable or sustainable phone cases it's not actually that much expensive. It seems unreasonably priced if you compare them to cases that are not at all eco friendly.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Hey now, you're looking at this all wrong: if you break your phone because you didn't have a case on, it should be easily fixable! ;⁠-⁠)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

I would totally buy one if they brought it to the US.

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