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Saw a post without noticing the community and commented a genuine comment with good intentions.

Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

Original post:

My (removed) comment:

And yeah, the last comment was sarcasm.

I just don't really understand why is there a community for shitting on Linux? Like I can get not liking it, and hating the Linux die hard fans, but it really is an amazing thing that is integral to almost all modern computing... Kind of like hating social media by having a facebook page for it.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's not a "community", it's one person making all the posts because I guess they wanted to make hating Linux their entire personality. 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

Sounds like they've done you a favour. Now you don't have to see their random hater circlejerk community again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

I wish I could just mute it for them. -Apparently not an option.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There was a time when there was an annual "Linux Sucks" presentation that I liked because it was a roundup of candid, yet constructive criticism of Linux (and then at some point the person running that went off the deep end and started yelling about woke agendas).

I wouldn't mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken when running linux, and we as a community then try to fix them or find workarounds.

But as others have pointed out, that community isn't a community, it's literally just one account hanging out by themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

" that community isn't a community, it's literally just one account hanging out by themselves."

Is it though? Here's a screenshot from [email protected] showing 2 other contributors (and this isn't chat; I'm not here to 'hang out').

It's also new and trending. Even on Reddit's r/linuxsucks, I was a prolific poster, and continue as such on r/desktoplinuxsucks.

Maybe just admit being butt-hurt or mute, because you aren't the intended audience and it brings you discomfort. -Thanks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Lol that's actually hilarious. So but, why not comment on your posts too? Each post is just sitting there with an empty comments section.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I got into mostly posting rather that commenting because of the hostility of Linux evangelists / brigaders. -Posts can't yield negative karma on reddit. My comment is typically in the form of the title or in the customization / creation of the meme.

Maybe you're still thinking back to when it was new; there are some posts from today (or a matter of a couple hours) with 3 comments already. It's funny how people are criticizing it when there's some adjustment (getting the right audience / parcipation) to be done in the face of a brigading / evangelizing issue from people it's not meant for. I didn't bring a community, and I'm not going to recruit for here from the reddit subs.

It's unlikely that anyone is going to come along and contribute anywhere near as much as I do. -I don't see the problem with that. Progress is happening and we are continually on the trending lists. IMO it's working.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

I'm all for it. All publicity is good publicity in this space. Open criticism is the first step to better open software.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken

But isn't that every linux forum?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, but I think it can feel too much like a circle jerk around here sometimes. I get that people want to win over new users, but some of it goes too far I think. The fact is Linux isn't perfect, and while no OS is, there are some critical things you can do on Windows that are still a pain in the ass on Linux. Some of that is a vendor/proprietary software problem, but a good chunk of it is just people being willing to overlook a thin layer of jank in their normal workflows.

I think we'd all be better off to all acknowledge and clean up the jank rather than try to pretend it's fine as is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To be fair, Windows has its own jank. As someone who is forced to use Windows 11 for work, I'm much happier putting up with the minimum Linux jank I've experienced compared to the Windows jank.

If any of that made sense.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That whole community is just one guy posting memes. Some are funny but mostly its just odd how much he hates Linux.

Whatever :)

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hummm... Guess you're to sensible? I mean I'm die hard linux lover for 3 years now and will never switch back to Windows... EVER!

However, I found some of those posts quite funny !

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Some of them are funny indeed

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't understand why so many people take the existence of linuxsucks communities so personally, the reddit version has more linux users defending it than actual hate, but that one was more meant as a "legitimate grievances against linux" community as opposed to what the lemmy version seems to be.

Just block and ignore like anything else. Its okay if there are people that don't like the thing you like.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I didn't take it personally, just confused and amused at the situation

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

My guess: the mod is sittin there posting memes on his gentoo-machine and laughing his ass of, because someone's taking his community serious.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Pretty accurate meme though.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unrelated but I got banned from the atheist memes community for calling one of the mods memes a boomer Facebook meme.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As an atheist, I cringe at nearly every post I see from that community. Makes me want to punch teenage neckbeard me in the face

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

It turns out, mods are gods.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For this exact reason i feel the fediverse should operate on #hashtags and the user should subscribe to their mods who will mark content for exclusion and filtration.

Meaning that instead of a ultimatum users can participate regardless of if bad mods ruin a community as per reddit /r/linux being ruined by loco mods.

This fiefdom format where topics are arbitrated and drum headded by fief lords is archaic and antiquated.

When the wrong man uses the right means, then the right means work in the wrong way.

Its our job to create systems that prevent this as much as possible through good design.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

That's how aether works kind of.

It's P2P/decentralised rather than federated.

Anyone can make a community. With enough participation in a community one can become a mod. Mods can be impeached by vote of active participants.

Anyone can see nod actions and anyone can decide to disable the actions of any mod.

I love the system, I was active there before moving to Lemmy. I wish it had taken off/absorbed some of the Reddit fallout rather than Lemmy.

AFAIK it is not maintained or at least updated much less frequently than Lemmy/ActivityPub.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's like going to a vegan community saying "meat isn't so bad". You're obviously not going to get good responses.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, that guy's not joking.

It's not some kayfabe act. He is sincere in all of that posturing assholery.

Block and move on.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the same argument I've heard about the "complexity" of Mastodon: too many choices, which is I guess why people largely stopped going to websites outside the major social networks. Monopoly over competition, it's like everyone is pining for a monarchy.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I acquired the yarn, but i can't figure out how to compile it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if it's related but there was an annual symposium called "Linux Sucks". It was a gathering of mostly Linux developers. The idea was to find the ways Linux sucks and develop ideas to fix the suck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Nah, this seems like a community to dunk on Linux

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So: you posted a serious contribution in an unserious community, and got treated unseriously. It's not very newsworthy.

As for that community's existence, why is that even up for discussion? As a Linux user I'm happy for people to say what they like about Linux. If the jokes are funny, all the better.

I use Ubuntu btw and it doesn't suck. Well, not that much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I don't think it's a joke community, it seems to just be about hating Linux and not allowing any Linux positivity or praise

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Deciding Linux isn't for you is one thing. Even deciding that you hate Linux is... Digestible. But what kind of internal self esteem and validation issues do you need to unironically participate in a community called "Linux sucks"?

Hating Linux is one thing. Putting in extra effort to justify to everyone that Linux is hate-able is a different kind of crazy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

When I was on reddit the ones spouting the most linux hate seemed to fall into two main categories.

  1. those that tried it like 15 years ago and still hold a grudge.

  2. dudes who heard people rave about linux but they themselves struggled with certain concepts when trying it out. And rather than realize they need to read instructions and learn new things, instead would rather blame linux for not working as expected.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Tech people are always sensitive and unfair. You should get used to it or start seriosly fighting them if you're not afraid of getting in a legal trouble. As someone already said, it's probably good that you got banned because the community could hurt you more. Trust me, you don't want to get banned on a community you've spent years and made friends on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Nope, I just checked. Apparently, you can't say anything good about Linux. Seems like a useless waste of time but, whatever. If I got banned from that site I would consider it a blessing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Whether it's a rage-click community, a community made for an agenda, or both, I don't know, but in either cases, I wouldn't see as surprising for the mods in such a community to be very trigger-happy. Best you can do, I think, is to block communities and individuals with such a profile, and to recommend others to not engaging (remember to explain why if you do it, btw).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

As light rises, so does darkness to meet it

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