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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Many years ago, I attended a Windows XP launch event. The Microsoft presenter had the perfect line to describe how MS views this:
"Why should you upgrade to Windows XP? Because we're going to stop supporting Windows 98!"

This was said completely unironically and with the expectation that people would just do what MS wanted them to do. That attitude hasn't changed in the years since. Win 10 is going to be left behind. You will either upgrade or be vulnerable. Also, MS doesn't care about the home users, they care about the businesses and the money to be had. And businesses will upgrade. They will invariably wait to the last minute and then scramble to get it done. But, whether because they actually give a shit about security or they have to comply with security frameworks (SOX, HIPAA, etc.), they will upgrade. Sure, they will insist on GPOs to disable 90% of the Ads and tracking shit, but they will upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because we're going to stop supporting Windows 98!

At least there was a technical reason there, that Microsoft was merging the two separate codebases for consumer Windows and enterprise Windows, and building on the better NT codebase than the 95->98->ME codebase.

And XP was actually way better for the main thing that we were going to be using computers for going forward: networked with the actual internet.

Windows 11? Can't see any paradigm shift in how the operating system itself is supposed to work, at least not on anything that actually makes a difference in a favorable way.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Ya, in fairness to MS, Windows XP was a good release (post SP1, like most "good" MS releases). But, the fact is that MS is going to push the latest version, regardless of how ready it is for use. MS was hot for folks to switch to Windows ME. And holy fuck was that a terrible OS. MS also did everything short of bribery to get folks to switch to Vista (anyone remember Windows Mojave?). The "upgrade, or else" mantra has always been their way. Not that I blame them too much, it does need to happen. It just sucks when the reason for the new OS is more intrusive ads and user tracking.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago

Probably a lower adoption rate than Vista

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The author asks many questions, but never the most important one: "Why don't people like Windows 11?"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Why would he? Anybody intersted already knows, rest doesn't give a flying duck.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

obligatory 🐧 that must be in every thread

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hahahahahah does anyone really think microsoft cares? their money is in business with all the big players already deploying 11 at least in modest amounts.

nothing stopped them when windows7 was still functional and they were pushing the tpm requirement, i dont see a difference here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Their money is now in azure. Os and app suites are a declining business, but they help with azure lock in.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd guess that major UI revisions are a big reason for average users. People don't like having to relearn how to do something or find a setting. If M$ implemented a legacy UI setting that by and large mimicked the interface and controls in W10 they'd clear a major hurdle preventing less technologically inclined users from upgrading.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

My guess is that the average user doesn't care at all and just clicks away update notifications because they are annoyed by them

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lots of people moving to Linux over Win11 anyway.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot do myself included. But not enough to matter. Most ordinary Windows users don't even know what Linux is or understand why they should care.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, right. 🙄

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